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Colleentinker (Colleentinker)
Posted on Saturday, November 30, 2002 - 9:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lucias, I'm so glad to see you here again! And I'm happy to read that you are reaching some resolution in your heart over this painful situation. I'd been wondering how you were doing. I'm also glad to read that you've joined a church where you and your wife find more fellowship and spiritual support.

There's nothing that can take the place of studying scripture. I agree with Lydell's recommendation of The Message Bible, by the way. It's clear and practical, and Peterson has stayed very close to the original languages. You will find yourself growihng in subtle and profound ways as you read. Jesus really does reveal himself to us through his word!

Without knowing anything about the situation you've been werestling with, I'd like to share the best definition of forgiveness that I've ever heard. Forgiveness doesn't mean forgiving and forgettingósometimes we have to remember in order to protect ourselves from further danger or harm. What it does mean is giving up our right to get even. Jesus said he would carry that load himself because it is too heavy for us; it would kill us if we had to carry the load of getting even. And Jesus can heal the wound in our heart when we give him the right to take care of justice.

With prayers for you,
Colleen
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I am opening up a thread that has been dead for along time. Why is it for some people it is a daily and hourly struggle to be a christian? I thought it was only me. But I met a person yesterday and he was as lost and struggling as I am. And for longer than me. I have been struggling for more than 9 years. He was for almost 20 years. Never knowing or understanding almost all the things that you are reading and hearing from the pulpit. It was disappointing meeting someone just like me. It was like a seminar between him and I on giving up in trying to be a christian.
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Speakeasy,

I think you confuse being a christian with acting like one.

Becoming a christian simply means that you accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Saviour and you realize you are a sinner and can not save yourself and trust His finished work on the cross to save you, alone.

It's a gift. You don't sign a contract at that point saying you are going to act like super christian. You don't have to do anything. God poured out His wrath on Jesus so that He was "pleased" that it was enough.

If you truly can understand the absolute enormity of this sacrifice, for you, you will understand grace and you will be in awe. You will understand that there is NOTHING else you can add to that perfect sacrifice and nothing else is required of you except that you believe and accept the gift.

Now, take a deep breath and relax.

Allow Christ to do what He wants to do in you. Stop trying to do it yourself. You can't do anything that will be acceptable to God, you can't give Him anything that would be anywhere close to His holiness and perfection.

Trust in Jesus and put your life in His hands and He will change you, just surrender all and give up.

Read Ephesians 1-3 and Colossians 1 and 2 and find what Jesus has already given you and done for you the moment you believed.

Bless you,
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Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2004 - 5:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sabra;
The below is NOT an attack on you or anybody else on the forum. This is just me telling you what is on my heart and mind. The list of things I am telling you is aimed at me not at anyone on the forum. I am taking the blame for the sins I have and am commiting and the below is toward NO one but ME.


You said:
"You don't sign a contract at that point saying you are going to act like super christian. You don't have to do anything."

You said
"you don't have to do anything and acting like a super christian and stop trying to do it yourself."

Let's see what the bible says the list of sins you can not do.


1 Thessalonians 5
22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

These sins would be.
Sexual lusts,Fornication,Drunkiness,Coveting other people's things,Anything of the flesh a car,home,work,stocks,your 401k, The bible also says if you hang around and loyter,have a quick tongue,bostfulness,luidness, thoughtlesness, an Idol mind ,don't hang around anything that will cause you to fall like gambling,pornography, maybe even in a bar. What about lying,cheating,being angry,let NO corruption come out of your mouth,bitterness,clamouriung,don't be a fool ,do not be unwise,Give thanks always,Do not submit to fears and worry,pray always.

The bible says even the thought of lust has caused you to break the law and breaking the law is a sin.

This list could go on forever. In order to know you have turned over all of your sins you would have to confess 50 or 60 times a day. What would happen to me if I was sinning when God or Jesus would come for people? Would I be taken? Or would I be left behind? I think I would be left behind if I were sinning at the time God or Jesus came. Even if I were not sinning at the time. If I did not confess all my sins. The bible says "No one will inherit the kingdom of God that does not do the will of God" or something like that. I will find the verse.

But the list of things you can not do or think or even say or even do is a mile long. How do you know you have confessed enough and living correctly with the endless list of things you have to do and endless list of things you can not do. There is no way anybody can do what is contained in the bible. If God new we could not do anything in the bible Why did he write the bible with all the list's of sins.

And if all we need to do is live by the Spirit. Then there would be no reason for the bible or Jesus or even God. There would be no reason for Churchs,or hyms or anything. Because the Spirit would be the only thing we need.

You said above in Ephesians and Colossians you will find out what Jesus has done for you at the moment you believe. BUT THE LIST that I gave you that you can not do and some things you are to do comes from those 2 books.

I just don't believe that anybody on this forum does all and everything that the New Testament says to do Let alone what the Old Testament says to do. I fully understand we can not attain our own salvation. But the endless list of rules and regulations that are in the New Testament alone. You can not do. No matter how many hours you read the bible and go to church and confess. You never know were you stand with God. Because you never know if you confessed enough and confessed all of your sins.

I just don't understand!The struggle is just to much to handle. I sin all the time and I never know how I stand before God. And if I sin all the time and I try to do what he says in his word and don't tell me you do not. But I might as well just give up and quite. Because I can never please God. Because I sin all the time. I can not be like Paul and fight the Good fight and run a good race. Because the list of sins that are told you can not do and the list of things you must do that are in the bible is just to great. I would rather just worry about what will happen on Judgement day to me. Because I do that anyway. I am tired of counting all the sins during one day and saying "I just sinned there and I sinned hear and at 2pm I sinned" The burden of knowing and wanting to please God is just to great. Please don't tell me that "You don't worry about it" If you don't then I don't know how you are following God and Jesus's teachings and also Pauls teachings.

And I haven't even got into the list of what Churchs and people say of the doctrines you must except to even be a christian. Those lists are long as well. I am not giving you a pity party. But I just don't know how anybody can really know if you are okay with God and Jesus. I listen to the same Holy Spirit as you do. How come I am being told by the Holy Spirit about these things but nodody else even cares? Nobody cares is a little ruff but nobody worrys if they are pleasing God. I do I know I am living a holy life when I read the bible and pray to God and talk to Jesus and this is what they are telling me and the Holy Spirit is always convicting me 24 hours a day. I am never at peace and rest God is always telling me "I AM not ready for his return" "I am to rebellious and wicked and perverted to be excepted" I repent then the cycle goes over and over again.

I can not understand when you go to church or listen to the preacher. These things are not addressed very much. You always hear about victory and people being helped by God and Jesus and what the Holy Spirit has done in someones life. But you never hear about people like me and the other people that struggling and those very peopele are doing the same things as you are and serving the same God and excepted the same messiah as you. But they are having much struggle. You never hear about those people on Sunday morning or in the Morning sunday flyer.

Please don't tell me I have not prayed enough or trusted enough or excepted Jesus enough. I think I have and have done this for a solid 9 years. I may not have been saved. If I were I should have been told by God himself I am okay with him. And not being told I am going to hell all the time.

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Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2004 - 6:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1 Thessalonians 5---read the beginning of the chapter, he is speaking to the brethren, those of the day, sons of light, of the light and not the darkness.

Since when did a lost person have light?

Why don't you go and re-read the letter to the Corinthians. They were into just about every sin you listed and still called saints in the letter.

The kingdom of God is not the same as the kingdom of heaven. You can do your own word search on the differences.

My preacher at my church preaches holiness weekly. This is not a post about how slack you can be in Christ. This is simply to differentiate the difference between your righteousness in Christ and your own righteousness. It wouldn't matter if you put yourself in a bubble and never sinned again until the day you die, you have already sinned and that is enough to send you straight to hell.

What matters is that Jesus never sinned, He lived, died and was resurrected to cover ALL of your sins, from the first to the last and He is perfect and God sees you through His blood, not your works or lack thereof.

Now, you could just go on the rest of your life and never do a thing and still be saved, technically, but you have the Holy Spirit in you and you would be warring against your own soul and be just miserable.

Will you be left behind? Possibly......that doesn't mean you are lost. I personally beleive that we are to "pray to be made worthy to escape the coming tribulation" because not everyone is worthy and that those parables of being refined by fire etc refer to the tribulation. God may just take the faitful few elect in the rapture, like he only took Enoch and Elijah, but the rest will be saved if they endure.

God saved you FOR good works and He wants you to work out those works to further His kingdom, not to save you any better.

I know where you come from, I was the same way. Meanwhile my pot-head, cursing, sister was so sure she was saved by grace, told me all the time that grace saves us. I thought she was nuts until I really saw it, until God allowed me to see it. Years later, my sister is growing in Christ and I have seen such a change in her life but it took years for her to grow into that because of our childhood.

An excellent book for you to read is "Set Apart" by Bruce Wilkerson. Please get it if you get a chance.

Too much crammed into that post, sorry.

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Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2004 - 6:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A lot of Christians do give up for the very reasons you listed--because those Christians think they have to reach perfection to make it to heaven (or at least have every sin confessed), and they know it's impossible! I don't think any one knows of any case in history or the present age, where even one person completely overcame sin, or even overcame most sin.

God wants us to know what His ways are like, and those who are Christians will desire the ways of God. But it will always be a struggle until we are made incorruptable, at the second coming. Paul speaks of this very thing in Romans 7:14-25. Even Paul struggled with sin regularly. Romans 8:1 is a wonderful promise that there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. As a former SDA, I was taught growing up that being "in Christ Jesus" meant all sins confessed and being perfectly "good". I don't think it means that at all, because we all know that's impossible. Being "in Christ Jesus" must mean having chosen Jesus.

Jesus is the only One, born on earth, who lived a perfect life. That is why His record of perfect obedience is counted towards each of us who accept it (instead of our record). I know the Holy Spirit gradually changes each of us day by day, but it is a very slow growing process. I can't explain why some people change quicker than others.

The way I understand it, the reason the Holy Spirit changes us is not so we can be good enough for heaven. Jesus already took care of the only requirement for heaven, when He died on the cross. We are changed before heaven for a couple reasons I can think of. First of all, we are changed to be more Christ-like because that's a happier and healthier way. The other reason, is because it's more helpful for a non-Christian to see what God is like when they look at a Christian's actions. Christians are ambassadors and helping hands for God to the hurting world around us. A Christian's witness is more believable when that Christian is loving others as Christ loved.
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I am NOT trying to be perfect. There is no one that can do that. I just want to do what the bible says to do. And to be so casual about sin and the bible tells us what sin is and most people don't care.

I have followed Jesus for a solid 9 years you say A christians life is more healthy and happier life. Not for me. I am tired of being for ever under the thumb of a God that I want to serve telling me I am not write with him. That is why in some of my posts I keep asking when does God or Jesus come and tell me all is okay with me? And not pull me by the string for 9 years. I don't know how much more honest I can be. God knows my concerns. And he has for 9 years. When is God or Jesus or something going to take charge of it. I can't do it. This is why people like me want to stop and give up. There is no responce from the other side. And people always so it is me. Well I pray and fast and read the word. What else can a person do?

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it still sounds like you are trying to do it yourself. I don't think we are "casual' about sin, but recognizing that even our best works are called filthy rags...none of us are worthy. None of us can make ourselves worthy. You asked what else you can do, what about trust? What about faith? Even though you may not "feel" like it, what about trusting the words God has given in the Bible regardless how you feel? I don't always live up to that list of rules, but even if I did, there would be something else in me that keeps me from the righteous requirement of God. Thankfully, I have Christ. Because I have Christ, I have perfect righteousness in God. My FAITH allows me to accept that. On one hand, we are certainly called to a different life standard, but on the other hand we are to recognize we cannot "earn" our salvation. Yesterday I fell, but today, I got up, asked forgiveness, and started on the road again. Not because I'm some super person, but because I'm not. If I thought I was that good, I might be tempted to stop pressing on towards the mark.

I don't know what you are looking for in terms of response from God...is it a feeling or a sign? Or is it a sense of peace? You won't find it by keeping a "list" of wrongs to avoid. It comes by faith and it comes by trust. IF you have received Christ as you've said over and over, then you have to put your faith in that relationship and let him do the work through you. You have to trust him to do what he has said. That is the only thing I know any of us can "do".
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I really do know what you mean, Speakeasy! There have been many, many times that I have lamented how one-sided things seem to be. However, I don't feel as strongly that way as I used to. When thing seem so one-sided, that gives an opportunity to practice faith and trust! As Paul says in I Corinthians 13, right now we see as through a mirror dimly.

Actually, I do find myself happier and at peace to follow the Christian life. That doesn't mean I'm always successful. And I really don't think I'm casual about sin, either. I hate what sin does and long for the day when it will be forever removed.

There was a time that I used to feel extreme, unrelenting guilt. At the time, I thought that was the Holy Spirit, but actually I think that was an overly active consience because of misunderstanding God. During those years, I was very angry with God for requiring so much and yet letting it be so difficult! I think it could partially be an understanding issue and partially a healing issue. There was a time I rejected God for these reasons. But later I came to see that I wasn't really rejecting God; I was rejecting who I thought God was--I was rejecting the "SDA God", or the "legalist God". I came to see that God just wants my heart and my willingness, and He'll take it from there.

I truly can't understand why some people have more "good fruits" than others or more spiritual healing than others. But since it's not the level attained that matters, but how your heart is with God, I'll leave it up to Him. God is trustworthy to "save to the uttermost" those who desire Him.

I know I've posted this before, but I'll say it again. Please read "The Ragamuffin Gospel" by Brennan Manning. I think you'll find you can relate very well to what you'll read in there!
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explain "I don't understand what you mean"

The life of trying to live a christian life is a struggle. The list of things to abstain from and to not do and things you need to do. That list always puts you on the short end on always trying to be better and to do better. No matter what a person says. You always are trying to get to the next leval and you never attain that leval, Because when you do get the next leval you are shown that there is higher levals. It is almost like the Messonic lodge.

But I guess God and Jesus works on people's lives in a different way. But the constant struggle is really hard on a person thats wants to please God or at least me. I truly want to please God and it is a struggle when the Very God you want to serve is not talking with you and the Very Messiah that you excpeted is not guiding you and telling you you are okay with me and don't worry about it.

I started to read the Manning book about 3 months ago. And got half way finished. I stopped the book is boring.
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My experience is that freedom in Christ never really became real for me until I surrendered what meant most to me. I had to be willing to do what I knew was God's will even though I didn't feel like it. I had to be willing to give up what I thought was "truth", what I believed. I had to be willing to give up arguing about it. I had to be willing to try the experiment of seeing if Jesus' salvation was real without my help.

I had to be willing to say, "Jesus, I give you everything that is me including what I believe the Bible means. I want only you, and I need your strength to help me walk away from what I know and love. Please give me yourself and give me the courage to jump off the cliff of faith and follow only you, not the doctrines or beliefs or teachings I thought were part of Christianity. Please be more real to me than my fears: I give my fears to you and let go of them. They're too big for me. I surrender even my analysis and my anger and my argumentativeness. Please reveal yourself to me, and make me humble and willing to see what You show me."

Surrender--complete, total surrender of my control over my own life--is the only way I found the peace and freedom of following Jesus. I had to admit I didn't really know reality. Only Jesus did.

Dear Father, please give Speakeasy the courage to surrender all his questions and confusion to you. Please give him the courage to surrender to you all the parts of himself that struggle with truth and struggle with alternating belief and unbelief. Please give him the courage to ask You to hold him in the reality of You and the Truth only You are. Give him the courage to let go of what he believes and fears and allow You to fill his heart and his mind with Biblical truth. Thank you that You know what He needs, and that You have ways of which we cannot even dream to be everything we need. Thank you for your Spirit who teaches and comforts us, and please help Speakeasy to surrender to Your comfort and light. In Jesus' name, Amen.
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So what do I do when I have done this allready. The prayer you wrote has been said a thousand times and prayed with over for 9 years. But thanks anyway for your input.

It sounds like that many people do not really follow what the bible says. But more follow what the Holy Spirit is telling them. Because the bible is pretty clear on what sin is. I have adressed just a few of the sins that the bible says are. And it seems that knowbody really thinks that these are sins that concern them on Judgement day or they are sins that they have to even worry about. Do people realy confess 20 or 30 times a day all there lives? I do and it is getting a little old 30 times a day over 900 times a month that is about 10,000 times a year that you would have to confess. And we as people sin more than 20 or 30 times aday. When is enough ,enough?

Why would a God state what sin is in the bible and just because we have excepted the Messiah that those sins we commit be not sins that would not be neede to confess? What happens to a person if he has excepted Jesus and he is sinning at the time that he comes back? Does that person get left behind lets say if he is robbing a bank or stealing a candy bar or even thinking of a lustfull thought.

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Do you expect to stop sinning once you have accepted Jesus Christ? Because the Bible says nothing of the sort. In fact, it is chock full of references to the contiuing struggle between the flesh and the spirit. You are not experiencing anythin unique here, Speakeasy.

If your faith is in your own works, you are misguided because Scripture says that even our righteous deeds are nothing but filthy rags before a Holy God.

I suggest that you give up trying to measure your Christian walk by your own personal performance in holiness and allow Christ hanging on the cross to be enough to satisfy God. God said that is enough to pay for your sins, so there is nothing you can add or take away by your behavior.

We are all waiting for the redemption of our flesh, just like you are. Meanwhile, we all struggle, sin, confess, repent, and accept grace by faith.

Scripture doesn't talk about confessing every sinful act, thought, and tendency. That came from Adventism, not God. The Bible tells us to acknowledge that we are hopeless sinners in need of a Savior. Do I need to worry about confessing every lustful thought I have, or do I need to confess that I struggle with lust and need help from above with that struggle?

Also, the struggle with sin becomes more acute after conversion. Things get worse, my friend, because we now have the mind of God. Perfect, absolute holiness is the standard we see before us now. Ironically, that is exactly the standard we cannot achieve until the redemption of our flesh yet to come. Meanwhile, the lamb of God is the payment for our sin in this life.

Good works don't get us anywhere or earn us any merit with God. They are simply an expression of our faith and the result of our conversion.

Get over the idea that you will ever be anything but a hopeless sinful mortal dead man in this life, and accept God's free gift of forgiveness for ALL of your sins - yesterday's, today's, and tomorrow's. You can't be who you want to be except you be in Christ and, if you are in Christ, then God sees you today as you will be in eternity. Accept that by faith and get on with the business of living free and with peace and joy.
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Jesus hanging on the cross tells you that you are all right with God. He didn't do that for Himself, He did that for YOU. What more do you need? Accept it by faith and stop listening to the words of your accuser, Satan. God says you are the apple of His eye, His delight, His children (better than a servant!), and has seated you at His right hand. And this is all while you are still a sinner! Somewhere along the line, we all have to exercise faith that what God said in Scripture is actually real and true. Do you believe what God has said in His word Speakeasy? Or are you seeking some esoteric demonstration by God to prove true what He has already said and done?
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Speakeasy,

Do you understand that there is no condemnation to those who are in Christ?

He is your advocate. He is constantly praying for you, interceeding.

The devil is the accuser of the brethren and he is the one telling you otherwise.

Rebuke him and rest in Jesus.
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I see that I am on the lossing end on this as usual. I just don't understand. I am sorry for the trouble I have caused.

Maybe one day God will tell me I am okay with him. I hope it comes soon.

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Speakeasy,

We accept God by faith. I understand you have done this. When we accept God by faith, we then get to walk with Him by faith as well, and we are promised that 'He who began a good work in us will be faithful to complete it". We are not promised feelings of acceptance, or even that God will 'tell' us we are accepted. He has already promised that all who come to Him He will in no wise cast out. You have come to Him. Now trust that He means what He says!

We may worry, or we may not worry, but God has taken us and we can trust Him feeling or no feeling.

I used to keep repenting and repenting for things that had happened years before and asking why God didn't forgive me. God had actually forgiven me way back the first time I asked him, and took me as his child. It just took me years to accept it!

I'm praying that God's peace will comfort your heart as well.

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Speakeasy, you have caused no trouble here. Neither have you lost anything here. What do you mean?

God has already told you you are OK with Him by sending His only Son that you might have eternal life. His Scriptures say that "YOU MAY KNOW THAT YOU HAVE ETERNAL LIFE" - if you believe. If the word of God isn't trustworthy enough for you, then nobody here can help you with that.

Conversion doesn't sound an alarm with bells, whistles, sirens, and lights. God is an efficient communicator. There is no need to tell you again what He has already told you in His Word and in His Son Jesus. Either you believe God or you don't. At some point you have to accept what God has said solely because of Who said it, or go back to square one and "REPENT AND BELIEVE THAT YOU BE SAVED."

"FAITH IS THE SUBSTANCE OF THINGS HOPED FOR, THE EVIDENCE OF THINGS UNSEEN". You must BELIEVE God in order to RECEIVE the gifts.

You have been given the gift of righteousness BY FAITH, and eternal life BY FAITH. Now, tell me how it is that you have lost anything here by simply hearing from other Christians confirming that these things are indeed true and trying to help lift you up from your apparent discouragement?
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I guess the word doesn't talk to me like it does you. Because if you take the time and go through the word. You will have a list of things you have to abstain from or not do in the new testament alone there is 344 (And I am still counting) a list you need to do 184 (And I am still counting)

So everytime I commit a sin or do not do the things that God and Jesus and the apostles taught about. Do I need to confess them? If so I would be confessing 30 or 40 times a day. If we do not need to confess our sins. Then God and Jesus should have not stated what sin is.

I see alot of things about faith. Does faith keep you from sin? Does faith save you? Is faith without works possible?

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Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 8:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Word says the same thing to you that it does to all people, Speakeasy... "THERE IS NO CONDEMNATION FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN CHRIST."

I applaud and admire and encourage your desire to please God in all things and follow His commands. However, when you fail to live up to the standard of perfect holiness that has been set before you "BE YE THEREFORE PERFECT, EVEN AS YOUR FATHER IN HEAVEN IS PERFECT", now what? Does that make you "unpleasing" to God? Does He cast you away from Himself because of your human frailty and failing and rebellion? "I WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU OR FORSAKE YOU".

When my little daughter tries to please me and fails, either through weakness, ignorance, or rebellion, that does not make her "unpleasing" to me, and I do not reject her. If I, who am evil, can continue to accept and love my daughter who fails, is God not infinitely more loving, gracious and merciful? Please don't forget the God that we worship. One of His primary attribute is mercy. "HE KNOWS OUR FRAME, HE KNOWS THAT WE ARE BUT DUST."

Faith does not keep you from sin, Faith saves you, and faith without works is dead. Remember tho, that accepting Jesus Christ as your Saviour and Lord is the only good work that you can claim anyway. And even that is impossible without the soverign grace of God calling you to Himself in Christ...

God knows how and when you blow it, so I don't see the need to obsessively account for every sinful deed, thought, or motive. He knows about sins you don't so you can never confess every sin to Him anyway. God doesn't want us focused on our sins ("AS FAR AS THE EAST IS FROM THE WEST, SO FAR HAS HE REMOVED OUR SINS FROM US"). He wants us focused on His Son ("IN HIM IS LIFE"). Satan wants you to worry about your sins, God wants you to bathe in His mercy.

Please cut yourself some slack, Speakeasy. God already has.

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