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| Hrobinsonw Registered user Username: Hrobinsonw Post Number: 87 Registered: 7-2004 |
Feel free to show or tell D&**@ anything I ask or say. What are your true feelings about D&**@ giving up her true religion? Forsaking all she has ever known? | ||
| Hrobinsonw Registered user Username: Hrobinsonw Post Number: 88 Registered: 7-2004 |
here is what I returned to her, I know that I should have consulted yall first: I don't think that is what she is doing. She still has to find herself spiritually. If you notice, she rarely listens to the sermons. After the singing is done, she will leave the service. If she is at church with her mother, she will tune the minister out. When we have Bible discussions about simple things, she has to call her dad or someone else. I feel like her spiritual foundation is missing some things and the only way that she can stabilize is it is that she seeks God for wisdom. Then she reads and studies for herself. NOBODY can suppress what God has planned for an individual. D&**@ is feeling a since of freedom within herself. Maybe I am to blame for that, I don't know. But I don't pressure her. Whatever she has known all of her life may not be in line with the purpose that God has planned for her. And if she is forsaking all that she has ever known like you say, then trust that God will re-educate her through the Holy Spirit. She isn't as weak and misinformed as those that surround her may think. Human nature is to seek freedom. To be free and in tune with God at the same time is something that millions of people world wide seach for but never achieve. It is the gift of salvation through Jesus Christ. What do yall think. Do you think that I may have offended her? If so I should apologize. | ||
| Susan_2 Registered user Username: Susan_2 Post Number: 1102 Registered: 11-2002 |
Well, Hrobinsonw, you truly got an insight to the SDA mindset with that e-mail. TRUE RELIGION. Right there it says it all. The SDA denomination proclaims that it and it only has all truth and all others have all error. Sadly, a lot of SDA people fall for that line. I will certanily keep you and yur sweetheart in my prayers. | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 743 Registered: 3-2004 |
Hrob, you did not condemn or point a finger at any one. You were just telling the cousin what you see. In my mind there is no need for apology. I think you said what God wanted you to say. Diana | ||
| Hrobinsonw Registered user Username: Hrobinsonw Post Number: 89 Registered: 7-2004 |
I did speak from the heart. Later last night she asked me to talk to her friend about SDA. She is saying that deep down she never agreed with the SDA life and none of her family members can accept it. So she thinks that her friend will see the light as well. | ||
| Mrcato Registered user Username: Mrcato Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2003 |
Hrobinsonw I'm blessed at how God is working in your fiance...especially being in that adventist stronghold, huntsville AL...I haven't visited there before but I've always been curious as to what the atmosphere is like there and the challenges that true Christian churches there face with such a strong adventist presence. | ||
| Susan_2 Registered user Username: Susan_2 Post Number: 1107 Registered: 11-2002 |
Is that where Oakwood College is? | ||
| Mrcato Registered user Username: Mrcato Post Number: 4 Registered: 12-2003 |
yup | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 749 Registered: 3-2004 |
Mrcato, I have not seen you post on here before. Are you new?? Or is it just a long time since you have posted?? If you are new, welcome. If you have ever been in Loma Linda you will know what an Adventist strong hold is like. Everything closes Friday afternoon and nothing is open on Saturday. Now that Loma Linda has a VA hospital there I am not so sure of every thing being closed on Saturday. When I was in school there it seemed like everyone in the neighborhood was an SDA. I do not know about true Christian churches in Loma Linda. There were not any close by when I was there. There may be some now. I do not live there now. Diana | ||
| Hrobinsonw Registered user Username: Hrobinsonw Post Number: 90 Registered: 7-2004 |
Yes, It is where Oakwood is. The other Churches pretty much look over them. I know that a few Sunday churches think that they aren't exactly Christian. And it is a huge Adventist stronghold. My fiance has not been to an SDA church in over a month now. She has been with me every sunday. She went to church with me yesterday, and then went to an afternoon service with me, and had a great time. We were in church from 11:00am until 6:000pm. She was so giddy yesterday until we went to her cousins (the one who sent the email) house. They asked about sabbath church. she replied that she didn't go again. Then they asked why she was so dressed up. And she explained about church all day. That family just ignored me for the rest of the afternoon. It was fun. | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 944 Registered: 12-2003 |
Hrob, you truly are experiencing the reality of Adventism. No, I don't think you owe any apologies. Mrcato, welcome to the forum! We look forward to hearing more from you. Colleen | ||
| Mrcato Registered user Username: Mrcato Post Number: 5 Registered: 12-2003 |
Hrobinsonw the way you tell your stories really makes me laugh LOL...Flyinglady, I've only posted on here once before i think...I've been reading the site for a very long time though...primarily because of the indepth bible discussions on here-I'm always learning a lot and getting new insights from the members...Actually, I've been employed by an SDA church for some years but I've never been a member...I'm a member of a non denom. church (sundays of course)...of course, attempts have been made throughout the years to 'bring me into the fold' but once I show the discrepancies in their beliefs, I'm left alone...usually....LOL | ||
| Mrcato Registered user Username: Mrcato Post Number: 6 Registered: 12-2003 |
Hello, and thanks Colleen! | ||
| Hrobinsonw Registered user Username: Hrobinsonw Post Number: 91 Registered: 7-2004 |
Mrcato, I experience that alot as well. Being left alone actually becomes a good feeling after a while because you no longer get angry in discussions. My fiance's cousin and her husband just look back and forth at each other without speaking everytime we have innocent Bible talk. I get the feeling that they are thinking that I don't know the truth. I slipped up and said something about Jesus sabbath behaviors once and the conversation just dropped. It is so funny now. And I am spending thanksgiving with her 96 year old grandmother. It will be me (the anti-Adventist), her (the soon to be anti-adventist), her mother (Ellen White's neice, lol), her grandmother (Ellen White's sister, lol), and the hoards of Adventist that surround them. I will be leaving the house often for real meat because they don't eat pork (thanksgiving is not thanksgiving in the hrob household without real ham). They eat vegetarian turkey as well. I have began praying because the people down there in Savannah, GA where we are going have already been made aware that my fiance is behaving as if she is leaving the SDA faith. So off course everyone down there has to meet the ANTI-ADVENTIST. | ||
| Hrobinsonw Registered user Username: Hrobinsonw Post Number: 92 Registered: 7-2004 |
hey, what do adventist think of the other sabbaths? why don't they keep them? | ||
| Susan_2 Registered user Username: Susan_2 Post Number: 1120 Registered: 11-2002 |
Have you ever eaten Tofurkey? You can get it throuh a local naturalfoods market. It's some real wild stuff. Tofu molded to be in the form of a turkey. | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 948 Registered: 12-2003 |
Hrob--the other "sabbaths" were merely ceremonial, Adventists teach. The reason they can justify calling the others ceremonial but not the Sabbath is that only the weekly Sabbath was considered the sign of the covenant and placed at the center of the words of the covenant: the tables of stone. Colleen | ||
| Hrobinsonw Registered user Username: Hrobinsonw Post Number: 93 Registered: 7-2004 |
colleen, How is it that they can speak of unclean meat, which is not a decalogue issue, and not keep the other Sabbaths. I thought that the unclean meat issue was ritualistic as well. So it seems as if they are picking and choosing what it is that they want to uphold in support of their belief system. Susan, I am sure that I will have tofurkey this thanksgiving. i will take a digital photo to send home to my parents. Right now they cannot believe that SDAism is just that serious. | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 98 Registered: 10-2004 |
Hrob, Yes, they think the Law is like a buffet line. And yet they will also tell you that the 10 Commandments are the "eternal, moral law" and that the rest of the Law was the "ceremonial law" and nailed to the cross! And then they go against that, and say that unclean meats, tithing, assembling on Sabbath, etc. are for us, even though those things are in the "ceremonial law"! I still haven't figured it out. If anybody has an explanation for it (other than EGW just chose what she liked and what would help her and what she could control people with) then please let me know! Oh, about the unclean meats, some SDAs say that there were "health laws" (besides ceremonial, civil, and moral laws) and that those are for us! EGW said these "health laws" are as sacred as the 10 Commandments, and that if you transgress them you have transgressed the Law of God! But she says that one of these "health laws" is "no meat"! Well, God did a pretty poor job of communicating that in His Word, then! He told the Jews they had to eat meat, thereby forcing them to break the "Law of God" according to EGW! It's all nonsense!!! Jeremy | ||
| Freeatlast Registered user Username: Freeatlast Post Number: 231 Registered: 5-2002 |
Jeremy, it's not nonsense, just "present truth" ;>) Present truth means what was error yesterday is true today. Error is not truth, past, "present", or future. |
