| Author | Message | ||
| Chris Registered user Username: Chris Post Number: 524 Registered: 7-2003 |
1) I believe I remember somebody, Jeremy maybe, talking about EGW stating that Jesus approached the Father and entered into the light aroung His throne to plead with the Father to let Him die for the world. An SDA friend of mine just asked me if this is Biblical or not and I want to provide an EGW reference to show where it really came from. Any help in tracking down the reference would be appreciated. 2) The second question was if modern Jews believe that the Messiah will fulfill the Law and that they will no longer live under the Law when He comes. It seems to me that I've read somewhere that this is in fact the case, but I would like to have a reference. Thanks, Chris | ||
| Esther Registered user Username: Esther Post Number: 106 Registered: 5-2004 |
Chris, I'm not sure on point #1, but something I found pertaining to point #2 might help you out. At first, I wasn't sure what the good rabbi was saying, however, as you get into the meat of the topic, he pulls everything together to make his points quite well. Here's the link : http://www.umjc.org/main/faq/definition/ResnikResponseToHegg.pdf | ||
| Bmorgan Registered user Username: Bmorgan Post Number: 9 Registered: 7-2000 |
Chris, Check out the book "Early Writings" in reference to your #1 question. (Jesus approaching the Father to plead with Him to let Him die for the world.) If my memory is correct, I think that's where it is found. Bmorgan | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 1183 Registered: 12-2003 |
Chris, in Jeff Helsius's article, second installment, in the July-August issue of Proclamation, he includes the quote you need for question #1 including the reference. He cites "Spiritual Gifts", Vol. 1, pages 22-24. (BMorgan, I would have guessed Early Writings, too! Maybe she even has something of this nature there...) Colleen | ||
| Chris Registered user Username: Chris Post Number: 525 Registered: 7-2003 |
Great! Thanks everyone. Thanks Colleen, that must have been where I read it recently. Chris | ||
| Dennisrainwater Registered user Username: Dennisrainwater Post Number: 106 Registered: 8-2000 |
Colleen -- I think Mrs. White plagiarized HERSELF almost as much as she did others... I have been very surprised when doing research either on 'search the writings' at the White Estate website, or at the PUC library, at how often a specific quote search brings up the same sentence or paragraph in two, three, or more places in "her" writings... And I'm not referring to the more recent 'compilations', either! I'm so very glad to have that crazy-making behind me!! Clinging to the Cross of Christ, Den <>< | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 227 Registered: 10-2004 |
Yes, she used lots of "her" writings more than once in her own lifetime even. Sometimes some changes would be made also, to be more correct with the current thoughts of the day, etc. Praise God that HIS word never has to be changed, revised, edited, or corrected!  Jeremy | ||
| Susan_2 Registered user Username: Susan_2 Post Number: 1316 Registered: 11-2002 |
Dennisrainwater, Did you attend Valley Community Church in Fresno? Are you living up near PUC now? | ||
| Dennisrainwater Registered user Username: Dennisrainwater Post Number: 107 Registered: 8-2000 |
Amen, Jeremy! Susan2, no -- but you knew my dad there, I think. Bob Rainwater... I did attend FAA for one year -- '79-80. I moved away from the Napa Valley in early 2000 and now live in beautiful North Carolina. I lived in St. Helena while I was doing my research that finally led me out of the church in 1999. I had lived there from back when I attended PUC Prep school (academy), and had an old class-mate who worked in the PUC library... That gave me easy access to a lot of the material I needed from EGW's writings, until I eventually got online. God bless, Den <>< | ||
| Susan_2 Registered user Username: Susan_2 Post Number: 1319 Registered: 11-2002 |
It's a small world indeed in Adventism. Does your dad still attend Valley Community Church? I don't feel at liberty to disclose too much personal information on the Internet that anyone in the entire world can read but I have numerous kin up in the Angwin ghetto. Some who hold very prominant positions with the college and that SDA hospital up there. Isn't Angwin a really weird little community? | ||
| Loneviking Registered user Username: Loneviking Post Number: 303 Registered: 7-2000 |
Isn't Angwin a really weird little community? -------------------------------------------- Hey, I always liked it up there! Lots of woods to go get lost in, Lake Berryessa to swim in, the vineyards and wineries to visit, good rockclimbing in Lake county---what's not to like? O.K., there are a fair number of nuts at PUC (Pay Us Cash!) but it's one of the more liberal schools around. I remember back in '79 going off the hill to St. Helena to see the Deer Slayer. It wound up being a three hour movie and there was a biiig traffic jam going back up Howell mountain. The boys deans were just standing there in the dorm lobby watching everybody troop in---they never said a word! I had a good time at PUC............... | ||
| Dane Registered user Username: Dane Post Number: 90 Registered: 4-2004 |
We lived in Angwin from 77 to 80. Beautiful area and very peaceful. We loved the long walks in the woods. I taught at the Prep School. Dane | ||
| Loneviking Registered user Username: Loneviking Post Number: 304 Registered: 7-2000 |
'Very peaceful' triggered a memory. Just before Halloween night in 79', somebody stole several sticks of dynamite. Halloween fell on a Friday night that year. I'm sitting in vespers with my girlfriend (now wife) and all of a sudden you hear the loudest 'boom' and the building shook. Somebody fired off those sticks of dynamite in the middle of the football field leaving this big smoking crater. Remember Saturday mornings when they would turn the music on over the loudspeakers and it could be heard all over the valley? Remember that morning in the fall of '79 when somebody snuck in, switched the music to hard rock and then locked the door? Everybody was reaaaaly startled to hear something other than Sabbath music blaring over the loudspeakers! | ||
| Susan_2 Registered user Username: Susan_2 Post Number: 1321 Registered: 11-2002 |
You went to the wineries? Oh, I am registureing shock waves going through me. I have spent a lot of time in that area and yes, it is a wonderous vacinity. Very beautiful. I was never a student there. I attnded the local public junior collegee, than graduated from a public university. I did live up in that area though. More over near Calastoga in a community where a lot of hippies lived. I alwayed liked going back into Pope Valley. It's pretty back there. I still know a lot of loved ones in those areas. There is a very nice road ito Santa Rosa now. I loved going to SR. |
