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Flyinglady
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Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 7:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I though each of you would like this. I received this from a Christian friend with whom I worked in VA. At the time I was a pseudo SDA and God was working on me to be a Christ follower.
Diana

The Resume of Jesus Christ
Address: Ephesians 1:20
Phone: Romans 10:13
Website: The Bible. Keywords: Christ, Lord, Savior and Jesus
Hello. My name is Jesus -The Christ. Many call me Lord! I've sent you my resume because I'm seeking the top management position in your heart. Please consider my accomplishments as set forth in my resume. Qualifications I founded the earth and established the heavens, (See Proverbs 3:19)
I formed man from the dust of the ground, (See Genesis 2:7)
I breathed into man the breath of life, (See Genesis 2:7)
I redeemed man from the curse of the law, (See Galatians 3:13)
The blessings of the Abrahamic Covenant comes upon your life through me, (See Galatians 3:14)
Occupational Background
I've only had one employer, (See Luke 2:49).
I've never been tardy, absent, disobedient, slothful or disrespectful. My employer has nothing but rave reviews for me, (See Matthew 3:15-17)
Skills Work Experiences
Some of my skills and work experiences include: empowering the poor to be poor no more! , healing the brokenhearted, setting the captives free, healing the sick, restoring sight to the blind and setting at liberty them that are bruised, (See Luke 4:18).
I am a Wonderful Counselor, (See Isaiah 9:6).
People who listen to me shall dwell safely and shall not fear evil, (See Proverbs 1:33).
Most importantly, I have the authority, ability and power to cleanse you of your sins, (See I John 1:7-9)
Educational Background
I encompass the entire breadth and length of knowledge, wisdom and understanding,! (See Proverbs 2:6).
In me are hid all of the treasures of wisdom and knowledge, (See Colossians 2:3).
My Word is so powerful; it has been described as being a lamp unto your feet and a lamp unto your path, (See Psalms 119:105).
I can even tell you all of the secrets of your heart, (See Psalms 44:21).
Major Accomplishments
I was an active participant in the greatest Summit Meeting of all times, (See Genesis 1:26).
I laid down my life so that you may live, (See II Corinthians 5:15). I defeated the archenemy of God and mankind and made a show of them openly, (See Colossians 2:15).
I've miraculously fed the poor, healed the sick and raised the dead!
There are many more major accomplishments, to many to mention here. You can read them on my website, which is located at: www.dot - the BIBLE. You don't need an Internet connection or computer to access my website.
References Believers and followers worldwide will testify to my divine healings, salvation, deliverance, miracles, restoration and supernatural guidance In Summation
Now that you've read my resume, I'm confident that I'm the only candidate uniquely qualified to fill this vital position in your heart. In summation, I will properly direct your paths, (See Proverbs 3:5-6), and lead you into everlasting life, (See John 6:47).
When can I start? Time is of the essence, (See Hebrews 3:15).

Send this resume to everyone you know, you never know who may have an opening! Thanks for your help and may God bless you!

Tracey
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Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 8:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aww! I just love this!
Dennis
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Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 8:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What a resume! Let's grant Him the top management position in our hearts. We desperately need Him. One of my favorite hymns says it well:

"Without Him life would be nothing, without Him I would surely fail; without Him I would drifting--like a ship without a sail. Without Him I'd be enslaved; without Him life would be hopeless. Without Him how lost I would be, but with Jesus, thank God I am saved. Do you know Him today?"

Thanks for sharing
His resume, Diana.

His grace still amazes me,

Dennis J. Fischer
Susan_2
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Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 9:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Diana, I LOVE it. I want to make copies of that and pass them out. Thank-you for sharing that.
Pw
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Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 5:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A real "equal opportunity" employee for our hearts.
Seekr777
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Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 9:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Diana,

Thanks for sharing His resume with me.

I've made a copy of this on my PDA so I can share it at anytime with those I meet. I never cease to be amazed at the opportunities God provides to witness for Him.

Richard
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Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 9:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks, Diana! I've been working on an article for Proclamation that compares the words of well-known Christian hymns with the words of the same hymns in the Adventist hymnal, and it is absolutely shocking to me how many hymns have been altered in the SDA hymnal in order to downply Christ's deity, to sanitize the atonement, to veil the Trinity, to remove any association with the historic church at large or the saints "in heaven", etc. There's a reason the Adventists have their own hymnal, even though Adventists think they're singing the great hymns of the faith. In truth, they are often singing "Adventistized" versions of the hymns. The gospel and the supremacy of Jesus have been veiled or entirely eliminated from many of their hymns.

Jesus IS our all-in-all.

Colleen
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Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 12:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Colleen, yeah, it's really mind-blowing. At church several months ago a particular hymm was being sung.I forget right now what one it was but I remember thinking I knew it by heart so I put the humnal back in the pocket in front me. Then I got to singing the wrong words. So I got the book back out and sure enuf I was not singing the real words to the song, I was singing the SDA words. Nedless to say, I felt really ripped off that I didn't even get taught the right words to the song.
Pw
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Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 1:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can you post an example of Adventist hymns that were altered?
Jeannette
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Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 1:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Diana, thanks for sharing the resume. I can't wait to send it to a few people in my life.
Jeannette
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Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 4:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK. This example is one which was largely "fixed" in the new hymnal. Here are the words of the REAL hymn:

Holy, holy, holy! Lord God Almighty!
Early in the morning our son shall rise to Thee;
Holy, holy, holy, merciful and mighty!
God in three Persons, blessed Trinity!

Holy, Holy, holy! All the saints adore Thee,
Casting down their golden crowns around the glassy sea;
Cherubim and seraphim falling down before Thee,
Who was, and is, and evermore shall be.

Holy, holy, holy! though the darkness hide thee,
Though the eye of sinful man Thy glory may not see;
Only thou art holy; there is none beside Thee,
Perfect in power, in love, and purity.

Holy, holy, holy! Lord God Almighty!
All Thy works shall praise thy Name, in earth, and sky, and sea;
Holy, holy, holy; merciful and mighty!
God in three Persons, blessed Trinity!

In the 1941 hymnal which was used until 1985, this is how that song appeared:

Holy, holy, holy! Lord God Almighty!
Early in the morning our song shall rise to Thee;
Holy, holy, holy, merciful and mighty!
God over all who rules eternity [this line substituted for "God in three Persons, blessed Trinity"]!

Holy, holy, holy! Angels adore thee [instead of "All the saints adore Thee],
Casting down their golden crowns around the glassy sea;
Thousands and ten thousands worship low before Thee [instead of Cherubim and Seraphim falling down before Thee],
Who was, and is, and evermore shall be.

Holy holy, holy! though the darkness hide thee,
Though the eye of man [instead of "sinful man"] thy great glory may not see;
Only thou art holy; there is none beside Thee,
Perfect in power, in love, and purity.

The last stanza was completely left out--the one praising the Trinity.

In the new hymnal (1985 to the present), all the original lines are restored EXCEPT: in verse two, the saints are still left out and angels are still doing the adoring. "Sinful" is still ommitted before man. Of course, the saints have to be omitted because of soul sleep. I believe the "sinful" adjective is omitted because ADventists really do not believe God can see man as "not sinful"--or "saved" before the second coming. Also, to omit "sinful" doesn't force us to look at our inherited, original sin. After all, Jesus had no advantage over us, remember?

One other example I'll give is from the hymn "Now The Day Is Over". Verse two begins with this couplet: "Jesus give the weary/Calm and sweet repose." In both versions of the SDA hymnal, "Jesus" is replaced with "Father", subliminally giving the impression that the Father is the one true God from whom our peace comes.

Also, the third, fifth, and sixth stanzas are deleted. The third stanza is not a major theological omission, but I believe the fifth and sixth are.

Here they are (and keep in mind all the changes and omissions in this hymn occur in both the 1941 and the current hymnal):

When the morning wakens,
Then I may arise
Pure and fresh and sinless
In your holy eyes.

[Adventists cannot suggest that we can be pure and sinless in God's eyes before the second coming.]

Glory to the Father,
Glory to the Son,
And to you, blest Spirit,
While the ages run.

[This verse is a doxology to the Trinity. Given the strongly antitrinitarian views of early Adventism--in fact, not until 1931 was the leadership unanimous in holding trinitarian views--this omission is not surprising.]

There's a lot more, but that's a sample.

Colleen
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Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 7:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Those are excellent research samples, Colleen. Hymns like "Blessed Assurance" and "It is well with my soul" certainly do not embrace SDA theology. There are lots of gospel songs that Adventists do not agree with theologically as well. However, they are frequently sung in SDA churches, summer camps, and evangelistic meetings.

It is the original, Christian version of hymnody that Sylvia and I remember as being most meaningful while still Adventists. Fortunately, they also used songs from non-SDA books as well. These non-SDA songs helped us to keep a limited Christian perspective amidst cultic teachings. Praise God!

SNACKBAR FOR THE SOUL: Interestingly, the Shekinah Presence was the only part of the Old Testament sanctuary that was not symbolic--it was real. Jesus is our Jubilee, our atonement, and Sabbath of sabbaths.

Dennis Fischer
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Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 7:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Colleen,
Thanks for sharing how the SDA church changed the words of familiar songs to go along with their theology. God has been so good in that I have forgotten the words of songs, doctrines of adventism, so as I processed out I did not have to get rid of a lot of stuff that was in my brain. I just have to absorb what I am learning. Praise You for being so wonderful and awesome, God.
Diana
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Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 8:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am courious if the SDA churches still recite the Our Father in unison out loud by the congreation. When I was a little girl the SDA churches still did this. I have not observed this in an Adventist church for probably 40 years. Did they decide reciting the Our Father out loud by the congreation is too Catholic? My weekly church service is at the Lutheran. As you know, Lutheran is a litergical type of worship. Believe me, we don't fall asleep in a Lutheran service-all that standing up and sitting down and congreation partisipation does not lend to sleeping through the service. Anyway, my SDA mother told me I should go to a church that teaches the Bible. I haven't gone to a church that has more Bible than the Lutheran (and no I'm not trying to get you all to change denominations. My point here is Bible.) We have three long Bible readings, the Our Father is stright from the Bible, the closing prayer is taken from the book of Neiemiah. The words the priest says at communion are right from the Bible. When I am in Hawaii I attend the Baptist church in the town where I am. They also rely on the Bible as their total source of truth. They also recite the Our Father out loud in their weekly service. I am just wondering if there is a reason this is not done in the SDA churches anymore. The SDA churches now have what they call The Garden of Prayer. Is this to substiture for the Our Father?
Flyinglady
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Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 7:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Susan,
When I was attending the Celebration Church in Las Vegas, I vaguely remember the Lord's Prayer being recited once by the whole congregation.
Every so often we would recite it in our SS class.
Take care my friend.
Diana
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Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 11:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When Diana mentioned a Celebration Church I couldn't help but reflect on the tempest in a teapot that was brewed (sorry for the cliche, but it was too good to pass up) over the whole celebration church thing.
Putting songs on an overhead, rearranging the order of service, adding a guitar and I guess welcoming people in the parking lot really shook the saints. I grew up in the south and attended some of our predominantly black churches and many had been having what white congregations would call celebration church for years.

When all the stuff came up about changing the service, more energy was spent on the format than the content. why do people believe that by changing the outside we can reach people.

What is that definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.

The church I now attend isn't the prettiest on the inside, no stained glass, instruments on the stage, people drinking coffee in the sanctuary, no pulpit but when our church service begins, you can feel the presence of the Holy Spirit and you leave feeling blessed and renewed.
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Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 12:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Goldenbear, I also have observed that SDAs, seeing the success of evangelical churches in bringing people to Jesus, tried to copy what they thought were their "method" and worship style. SDAs just don't seem to understand that what makes the difference is not a particular style of worship, but the presence of the Holy Spirit! And as I have said before, a cult that does not make Jesus central to its teaching and preaching cannot expect the Holy Spirit to be in their worship, regardless of its particular style.
Flyinglady
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Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 8:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bob and Goldenbear,
You are right in that it is not how the service is done, but on what is preached from the pulpit. The way I see it is that celebrations churches are popular because the style of worship is different and I for one did not like the staid, non joyous way of worhip of the traditional SDA church. Looking back on it from my perspective of having been out of the church for a year, I see I was looking for Jesus and thought that style made the difference and have found the difference is letting Jesus into my heart and life. With Jesus I get the Holy Spirit to teach me.
The difference is Jesus and Him crucified.
He is awesome.
Diana
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Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 9:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We attend the "celebration" service occasionally at the SDA college church in our town. It is good. THe music is well rehearsed. The musicians are excellent. The songs are grace-filled.

We also go to a non-denominational church. They have the same songs, with the same instruments, the same style, same overheads...BUT there is a huge difference and it has to be the presence of the Holy Spirit.
Colleentinker
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Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 6:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I completely understand what you're saying, Dd. We attended Celebration church in Redlands a few times during our searching phase. It was markedly different from (and in many ways better than) a traditional Adentist church, but even with the differences, it was in some fundamental ways still Adventist.

When we began attending Trinity, while the songs were the same, etc., the palpable presence of the Holy Spirit was very different.

I know there are people who really love Jesus who attend Celebration, but in ways I think they do not recognize, they are still in bondage.

I continue to pray...

Colleen

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