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| Agapetos Registered user Username: Agapetos Post Number: 17 Registered: 10-2002 |
Hey, I posted this on a different thread ("Unconditional Love") but thought a lot of us might relate to it and might not find it there, so I'm putting it in a new thread here. Blessings in His love for you! -Ramone -------------------------------------- Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005: -------------------------------------- Hi Susan_2! You wrote: ***** My mom has a big huge framed poster of the 10 commandments hanging on her wall. I bought her a beautiful georgeous little plaque that says, "This is the day the Lord has made. Let us rejoice and be glad in it." It is put away in a drawer somewhere. (I really don't know how come I felt like sharing that with you all but I did.) ***** I thought I'd mention something that the Lord shocked me with a couple years ago when I thought about that song. Do you know that song? "This is the day This is the day That the Lord has made That the Lord has made I will rejoice I will rejoice And be glad in it And be glad in it" I grew up singing that song in Sabbath schools and of course it seemed like it was about the good news of the Sabbath day. It comes from Psalm 118:24. There is a second verse to the song that says, "Jesus is the way ... that the Lord has made ... I will rejoice ... and be glad in Him." But the main thing was "This is the day". Imagine my surprise when I ran across the verse one day in Psalms 118 and read the verses right before it: "The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone; the Lord has done this, and it is marvelous in our eyes." (Ps. 118:22-23) Whoa! That's the verse Jesus said about Himself and that Peter said was about Jesus! (Matt.21:42 & 1 Pet.2:7) Suddenly I looked at the context of that song's verse ("this is the day") and instantly found that the verse is not about the Sabbath day *at all*! It's all about Jesus' victory for us! My friend Hazel summed it up and wrote: ***** The words of Psalm 118 have become the theme song of my life and I pray they become the theme song of your life, too, as you see God bringing back His captive children from the land of the enemy. "Shouts of joy and victory resound in the tents of the righteous: 'The Lord's right hand has done mighty things! The Lord's right hand is lifted high; the Lord's right hand has done mighty things!' I will not die but live, and will proclaim what the Lord has done... Open for me the gates of righteousness; I will enter and give thanks to the Lord... The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone; the Lord has done this, and it is marvelous in our eyes. This is the day that the Lord has made; let us rejoice and be glad in it." (Psalm 118:15-24) The message of this psalm is prophesying about the Capstone--Jesus Christ, whom the builders rejected, but who has now become our salvation. It is His victory that we rejoice in. It is His work of salvation that is marvelous in our eyes. We will not die but live because He tells us, "Because I live, you also will live" (Jn. 14:19). Paul reminds us of the following words of Christ spoken through the prophet Isaiah, "In the time of my favor I heard you, and *in the day of salvation* I helped you. I tell you, *now is the time* of God's favor, *now is the day* of salvation" (2 Cor. 6:2). "*Today* if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts" (Heb. 4:7). Let us rejoice in the day that Jesus Christ became our righteousness. Let us be glad in Him! ***** It's so cool that God takes even these songs that we thought were about the Sabbath day and says, "No, it's about My Son." The joy of that psalm was because the author foresaw the Day --- the Day when the Capstone would become our Salvation. Jesus is sooooooo good! It's been finished in Him -- which is why Paul changed Isaiah's tense from future to past in 2 Corinthians, because he knew it had been done, the Capstone had been laid on the cross. "In the time of My favor I heard you; in the day of salvation I helped you." Bless you! In His love, Ramone | ||
| Belvalew Registered user Username: Belvalew Post Number: 148 Registered: 7-2004 |
Thank you, Ramone. These thought have been beautifully pulled together. Yes, you are right. Some of the greatest truths of scripture have been diminshed by making the seem to be talking about things they are not. I remember singing that song in SS. Always thought it meant "Sabbath day," at least when I was a practicing Adventist. When the reality of it meaning "the day I found the Lord." that day becomes truly special. It is so frustrating talking to fully indoctrinated individuals who are determined to keep the doctrine blinders firmly in place. They seem to be functioning in a partial state of fear so they are unwilling to even look at the wonders of Grace. In so doing they miss out on fabulous, wonderful, amazing things. But, they get to remain shielded in their little cocoon of doctrine. Give me Jesus. Belva | ||
| Greg Registered user Username: Greg Post Number: 11 Registered: 2-2005 |
Ramone, thanks for that message. The Bible truly springs to life when you don't view it through the lens of doctrine. Belva, I totally hear you. We have been in the trenches together (so to speak) on the other forum. Your words about doctrine were exactly what I was thinking when I posted this: --Begin Quote-- I'd like to leave this discussion with a quote from the former Catholic priest Brennan Manning: Quote: ìThe single greatest cause of atheism in the world today is Christians who acknowledge Jesus with their lips, then walk out the door and deny Him by their lifestyle. That is what an unbelieving world simply finds unbelievable.î I'd paraphrase this for Adventism: Quote: "The single greatest cause of non-Adventism in the world today is Adventists who acknowledge Jesus with their lips, then walk out the door and deny Him by their unyielding love of doctrine. That is what unbelieving non-Adventists simply find unbelievable." --End Quote-- Give me Jesus indeed. Greg | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 1475 Registered: 12-2003  |
I have been astonished to discover, post-Adventism, that the Psalms are full of Messianic prophecies. I just never learned that in school! And I never realized until recently that, after His resurrection, Jesus said to his disciples, "This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms" (Luke 24:44). Realizing how much of the Psalms is for the purpose of foreshadowing Jesus, the significance of David being a type of Christ grows even greater. God gave David the prophecies of the atonement. Psalm 118 contains the gospel in metaphor. Read "Jesus" wherever you see "I" in verses 5-18, and you'll see His suffering, His deliverance from death, His victory. You'll see the way of salvation in verses 19-21--Jesus is the gate of the LOrd through which we enter. Ramone has already talked about verses 22-24. Verses 25-27 also suggest the cermonies of the Feast of Tabernacles and the triumphal entry. Also (thanks to Verle Streifling for this fascinating info), Psalm 118 is exactly in the center of the Bible. Verse 27 declares God has made his light shine upon us. This fact echoes Gen. 1:3 where God said, "Let there be light," and Revelation 22:5 which says, "They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light." From the opening passages to the closing passages, God gives us lightóand Psalm 118, right in the middle of the bookends of Genesis and Revelation, declares in a Messianic prophecy that God has made His lightó-Jesusó-shine on us. The Bible is so amazing! And how much we missed by not seeing Psalms as hugely about Jesus! Colleen | ||
| Susan_2 Registered user Username: Susan_2 Post Number: 1583 Registered: 11-2002 |
Ramon, Thanks so much for explaining that. I found it interesting several years ago while walking past the Sunday School class that the kids were singing that song. I had thought it was a SDA song. I stood outside the Sunday School room and listened and the teacher was telling the children that everyday with Jesus is a day to rejoyce in Him. Do any of you remember in Sabbath School singing, "The first day of the week is for me, me me. The second is for me, me me." etc. "But the Sabbath is for Jesus". And the last verse is sung with great gusto and when the children get to the words 'Sabbath is for Jesus' they jump up and down and clap and get all excited (at the prompting of the Sabbath School teacher). Do you remember that? Does that imply that the kids are supposed to ignore Jesus Sun. through Friday? | ||
| Hrobinsonw Registered user Username: Hrobinsonw Post Number: 141 Registered: 7-2004 |
Ramone, That was something that I probably would have never paid any attention to. Thank you. It is interesting how God unlocks different secrets to different individuals. | ||
| Lucas1v Registered user Username: Lucas1v Post Number: 4 Registered: 9-2003 |
Where's "Jude the Obscure"? Found his comments to be very instructive too, in past threads. Lucas | ||
| Weimarred Registered user Username: Weimarred Post Number: 19 Registered: 1-2005 |
Ramone, Isn't it amazing how SDA can assimilate everything into a Sabbath-thing? I guess it's "rationalize and conquer". Thanks for sharing that. | ||
| Esther Registered user Username: Esther Post Number: 143 Registered: 5-2004  |
Lucas, Welcome to the forum! Before I officially joined the forum, I think I read most of everything in the past discussions too. Though one of the other members will know for sure, as I read I think Jude the Obscure, became Max of the Cross? I loved reading all their thoughts! But I don't know where he is now. | ||
| Helovesme2 Registered user Username: Helovesme2 Post Number: 127 Registered: 8-2004 |
I love the "This is the day" song. I always thought it meant that each day God gives you is THE DAY we get to rejoice in Him in. The days I remember to sing it first thing have a way of turning out much better than the days I forget! Hi Lucas, Welcome to the forum! I too read lots and lots of the old stuff before 'officially' joining. I'm glad it's there to read! | ||
| Carol_2 Registered user Username: Carol_2 Post Number: 271 Registered: 2-2002  |
I think there are many of us (I've been on this forum for over two years now) that would like to "meet" Jude the Obscure. Seems like someone mentioned some time back that he was on a "break" or something. ? ? | ||
| Susan_2 Registered user Username: Susan_2 Post Number: 1610 Registered: 11-2002 |
I don't know what heading to put this under so I chose this one as this is the day I was given an offer beyond my wildest dreams. I was at the Wednesday Lent service that I go to each Wednesday evening during Lent. Check this out-thre church offered to give me an all expenses paid trip for four weeks to Solvakia. Yassarianna, if you are reading this, isn't that somewhere near your homeland? Well, I turned the offer down but gosh, I'm so blown away that I was given such an offer. Every summer the church sends a half-dozen or so over to Solvakia to the Lutheran school over there. The locals that go over there give the students a total English immerisan class as the students want to learn English. The locals that go over there stay in the dorms and then the folks over there give the Ameroicans a sightseeing tour and Solvakian hospitality. I declined the offer but oh, I'm just so humbled that they would even think I am worthy of such a gift. | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 1507 Registered: 12-2003 |
Susan, what a compliment! I'm sorry you can't go--four weeks of teaching English in another culture would be such a great experience for you! I'm happy you had the offer, though! You needed that! Colleen | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 1120 Registered: 3-2004  |
Susan, Congratulations on the offer. It is a tremendous compliment. I am so sorry you cannot take advantage of it. But it must really feel good inside to know you were considered. Diana | ||
| Susan_2 Registered user Username: Susan_2 Post Number: 1613 Registered: 11-2002 |
This is the same church that when the local thug broke out my windshield the church bought me a new windshield. But, really, I am so humbled at the offer. Maybe I can go next summer. They do this each year. | ||
| Seekr777 Registered user Username: Seekr777 Post Number: 61 Registered: 1-2003  |
Susan_2 Jeolousy is a sin and I'm sinning now ! ! That is a wonderful offer and I hope you will be able to do it next year. Where I teach it is almost like going overseas. I teach in downtown Pomona. The school is part of shopping center taken over by the school district. We have young woman "walking" the sidewalks out in front of the shopping center buildings at certain times of the day. (these are not students) At least the ladies are considerate and not usually there during school hours.  I love the students in my room and I strive to make learning both a challenge and also fun. Richard | ||
| Susan_2 Registered user Username: Susan_2 Post Number: 1625 Registered: 11-2002 |
Richard, Isn't the goddess Pamona from the Greek legends? I heard on Fox News the ACLU made LA take the Cross out of its city seal but they let the goddess Pamona stay. That really is loony. I just think the ACLU is way too far to the left, if you know what I mean. Have you ever been to Slovakia? Has anyone on here ever been there? If so, please share with me what it is like over there. Is this a public school you teach for? Is it regular ed or special ed? My child went to a local public school for kids who were currently on probation. The county has a fulltime juvenile probation agent right there at the school so when the kids would mess up they could get arrested right at the school and hauled off to juvenile hall. It was a joke of a school. The staff were just high paid babysitters. I doubt if even one student cared twobits about learning anything. Well maybe the metric system. Ha1 Ha! | ||
| Seekr777 Registered user Username: Seekr777 Post Number: 68 Registered: 1-2003 |
I teach in Pomona and although I've seen the city seal in passing I don't remmeber anything about it. I'll look it up and see what is on it. I changed schools last year and now teach in a school where the teachers work well as a team. We are in an area of low social/economic standing but we see students who are really ready to do their best. Of coarse we also see the students who are not willing to work at all. Richard | ||
| Jeannette Registered user Username: Jeannette Post Number: 89 Registered: 3-2003 |
Richard, what do you teach and what grade level? I teach science and mainly 11th and 12th graders. I tell you, if it wasn't for prayers and God's help I wouldn't be able to get through the day. Jeannette | ||
| Seekr777 Registered user Username: Seekr777 Post Number: 70 Registered: 1-2003 |
I teach 5th grade and work with a team of 5 5th grade teachers. I believe in quietly praying my students through out the day. They are special even the "pains". Richard |
