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Susan_2
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Username: Susan_2
Post Number: 1687
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2005 - 6:41 pm: |     |
My mom tells people when she's offered pork that she's allergic to pork. I once seveal years ago confronted her about that because it's a flat-out lie. She told me it's not a lie because pork is an abomination to God and to think that she'd let herself go to hell for eating something she can easily avoid honestly does cause her to have an alergic reaction. Yeah, I know.... She tells people the exact same line if she's offered an alcoholic drink. It is so extreme! |
Weimarred
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Username: Weimarred
Post Number: 41
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 11:52 am: | |
Ok, Miss Piggy, an iron, and an elevator! That brings back memories!
In my family the meat thing was treated differently by those who left SDA. One of my relatives is still comletely vegetarian, and has gout now! I always associated gout with meat, but maybe that's my SDA edumecashun talking.
Personally, after I learned from my Bible teacher at MBA that kosher meats had no Biblical application for us today, but rather that it was simply an SDA teaching, I couldn't wait to wrap my chops around some pork chops!
My 2 cents is that simply and generally speaking, any Christian not SDA is likely to be more open, and any Christian who is SDA will be very concerned about appearances and behaviour. Even when it's someone elses behavior! |
Pw
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Username: Pw
Post Number: 347
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 12:55 pm: | |
How true. I found that when I was an SDA, I spent more time judging people by what they ate, drank and what type of jewelry or make-up they had on rather than what was on the inside. Most people will not care or even notice what you put on your plate. Just go and enjoy the fellowship. |
Lisa_boyldavis
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Username: Lisa_boyldavis
Post Number: 10
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 2:52 pm: | |
The Bible teaches that it is in blatant disobedience to make a clean/unclean issue of food. So after our denomination blatantly disobeys God all this time, it's no wonder so many SDA's have eating disorders and obesity issues due to the noodle diet. I can not fathom eating meat as the only time I tried it (years ago) I became ill... but my husband's blood sugar issues are much more manageable now that we've been freed of worrying he would not be translated, and our baby and oldest son are eating fish and chicken. Our daughter is with me, still can't do the dead animals, but we're open to it. But Raven, maybe this is too brazen, but people are fascinated by other people's journeys... would it be too risky to share your journey with them? I've done so in my small group at church and they have been great.
Lisa
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Raven
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Username: Raven
Post Number: 220
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 8:41 pm: | |
Most likely, we will share our journey with this group. It makes sense, because we'll be seeing a lot of each other. Right now, though, we're pretty much strangers because this group just started and this upcoming potluck is our first official activity as a group. What a way to start! |
Dennis
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Username: Dennis
Post Number: 338
Registered: 4-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 6:47 am: | |
Many former Adventists find themselves "psychologically-damaged" as my wife would say it regarding the meat issue. I grew in an Adventist home where meat was served, but Sylvia did not have that freedom. Sylvia and I do not generally eat meat in our home. We don't even know how to prepare it.
However, I like tuna salad sandwiches so I can manage figuring that out myself. Oh yes, my wife does require that I dispose of the container in the garage dumpster immediately. :>) We eat chicken and fish in restaurants. Actually, my wife has started enjoying some beef too. We are slow learners. Otherwise, we would have left Adventism many years before the half century mark.
Dennis Fischer |
Pw
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Username: Pw
Post Number: 348
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 11:08 am: | |
Since today is St. Patrick's Day, how about some green eggs and ham...Sam I am? |
Chris
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Username: Chris
Post Number: 726
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 11:20 am: | |
I'm having some corned beef, cabbage, and potatoes for sure! |
Carol_2
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Username: Carol_2
Post Number: 286
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 11:22 am: | |
Oh how I'd love some corned beef and cabbage! One of my favorites. However, my Spanish class is going to a Mexican restaurant tonight, so I guess there will be no corned beef for me! |
Loneviking
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Username: Loneviking
Post Number: 323
Registered: 7-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 6:41 pm: | |
Well, you could always turn the tables on them like I did to the folks at my church. One of the ladies has a son who works in a creamery and he gave her a four pound carton of cottage cheese--which she came bringing into church one Sunday and asking if we could use it for potluck.
I help out a lot with potlucks (love to cook--ask Colleen) and I said that I knew what to do with that carton---cottage cheese loaf! What's that?---they asked. I told them to wait and see....
Midweek Bible study and potluck I made a big cottage cheese loaf and set it out. It was really funny to watch folks take a tiny portion (they had never seen anything like that before) and then I'd see them coming back through line and getting a big portion.
The ladies just couldn't quite fathom that there was no meat in the dish. They thought it was some sort of meat blended with cottage cheese! Anyway, I gave the recipe to several of the ladies and everyone thought it was good.
Sooo---you might be brave and try some vegetarian dish on them. I know a recipe for the best tasting meatballs going and they are made out of Tofu! I'm going to spring that on them one of these times............. |
Colleentinker
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Username: Colleentinker
Post Number: 1619
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 7:56 pm: | |
Loneviking--I love it!! I've also noticed that people are often surprised at how tasty some vegetarian dishes are--especially those "loafs" and "meatballs"!
Speaking of St Patrick's Day--I have a little tradition of buying a latte for me and one for Richard when I go grocery shopping on Thursdays. I was waiting for them to be done today, and I realized the guy making them was pouring frothy GREEN milk into the cups! It made me laugh!
Colleen
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Tracey
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Username: Tracey
Post Number: 278
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 8:20 pm: | |
You grocery shop on Thursdays??? How organized is THAT???!
I like that Wham (it tastes like boloney) and that other stuff, veggie corned beef or something.. I was really surprised that there's decent tasting stuff! I also like this canned round "meat" paddies that you dip in egg and flour and fry up.. tasty!
Can I have the cottage cheese loaf recipe. Frankly, it sounds gross as anything, but I'm open if you say people came back for seconds! I wouldn't mind the meatballs recipe either.
Tracey |
Jeremy
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Username: Jeremy
Post Number: 452
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 8:51 pm: | |
Hmmm, growing up, my family always did grocery shopping on Thursdays, too. I wonder if it is an SDA tradition, related to Sabbath?? Did your Thursday grocery shopping start when you were an SDA, Colleen? 
Do you all know the secret behind the taste of the fake soy meats? The reason they taste good (or so some think ;-)) is because they contain MSG. Even if they don't list it on the label (and even if it says "no MSG"!) the processing of the soy protein creates harmful MSG, which can cause brain lesions, etc.
Jeremy
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Pw
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Username: Pw
Post Number: 349
Registered: 6-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 6:45 am: | |
Oh oh. I didn't know soy contained MSG. No wonder I'm brain dead half the time. Sheesh. |
Chris
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Username: Chris
Post Number: 730
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 8:10 am: | |
Okay, let's be honest: Wham LOOKS like boloney, but it doesn't TASTE anything like boloney. :-) Actually, I think it does taste a little like ham when you fry it for breakfast (does anyone else do that?)
We made cottage cheese loaf for some of our church friends. We told them it was "SDA comfort food" and if they really wanted to understand their friends they had to try a bit of our culture. They tried it and said it was "okay" as long as they thought of it like stuffing, kind of a side dish. They just couldn't fathom that someone could eat it as a main course.
Chris |
Susan_2
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Username: Susan_2
Post Number: 1698
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 8:28 am: | |
I totlly LOVE that frozen corned beef sandwich slices. Just last night my sons were reminissing about how much they like that stuff and they want me to get some. I have wondered sometimes that now that there are natural foods stores in every ity and so much vegefoods in the markets in witch the companies have nothing to do with the SDA church, such as Boca Burgers (my favorite) and so on if this has affected Loma Linda foods financialy at all. It seems like it would. Whatever happened to Ruskets? I loved Ruskets. |
Colleentinker
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Username: Colleentinker
Post Number: 1623
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 9:22 am: | |
Well, since you asked, I'll confess--the Thursday grocery shopping has grown out of our current family limitation. Richard's '78 Toyota pickup (first purchased by my dad--he sold it to Richard when my folks moved to California in 1998) finally choked its last. It had a fatal accident this last summer when a neighbor's Sea-Doo trailer disattached coming down the hill near our house and rammed right into the back end of our Toyota parked in front of the house. The estimated repairs cost more than the market value of the truck (although not more than the emotional and practical value for us!!), and it's been totalled. In addition, it suffered a massive hemorrhage from the cooling system. It just needs way more help than it's actually worth!
Consequently, we are using one car between us. (Our 18-year-old bought his own first car in the fall, so he can take himself wherever he goes now.) We are praying about an appropriate replacement vehicle, and Richard (a methodical and careful comparative shopper) is keeping his eyes opened for affordable, good-condition used vehicles.
In the meantime, since I no longer teach, I don't actually need to go anywhere on most days. So, as part of our commitment to be fiscally careful and accountable to God, we have not rushed into purchasing a replacement. Thursdays, though, I take Richard to work and use the car to do whatever errands need to be done. I have to tell you this has been part of a really good experience in trusting God for me. At first I felt a bit frantic to be "stranded" without a car. (How thoroughly first-world I am!) Knowing, though, that God is sovereign, and nothing happens without His permission, I've asked Him to help me be focussed and faithful and to trust Him to be my all-in-all. He has really been present and has been helping me learn to be thankful for His provisions.
Of course, there are times when I have to go in early with Richard because of occasional appts. I can't schedule for Thursdays, but all of this is God's dealing in our lives, and we are trusting Him to provide what we need at the right time. Both Richard and I have had very specific things we've had to surrender to God as a result of this "vehicular situation". It's really intresting to me to see how God knows what areas of our lives He wants to address, and one way or another, He addresses them!
I praise Him for being faithful!
Colleen |
Colleentinker
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Username: Colleentinker
Post Number: 1628
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2005 - 10:07 am: | |
Carol_2--would you please email me at formeradventist@yahoo.com?
Thanks!
Colleen |
Raven
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Username: Raven
Post Number: 234
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 7:14 pm: | |
We had our small group potluck today, and I wasn't brave. It's a good thing I brought salad and macaroni & cheese. The only other choices (besides a veggie tray and desserts) were barbecued pork sandwiches, pork and beans, and broccoli salad with bacon. However, our youngest daughter was anxious to try the pork sandwich--but, she didn't like it. |
Colleentinker
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Username: Colleentinker
Post Number: 1761
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 9:16 pm: | |
Raven, I'll bet everyone loved the mac & cheese. Actually, I always love it--it's sort-of comfort food!
Colleen |
