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| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 713 Registered: 3-2004 |
I belong to a dating website which is run by an SDA couple, but has all Christians on it. Today is my birthday and three people sent me birthday greetings. All 3 of them are SDA, so I sent them a short letter thanking them for the greetings and asked if they had read my profile where it says I am no longer SDA. Then I told them why I was no longer SDA. Please pray with me that they will want to know more. I put in this website url and the url for digging4 truth and the EGW site. I cannot help but think that this happened for a reason. God is so awesome. Diana | ||
| Dd Registered user Username: Dd Post Number: 186 Registered: 7-2004 |
Happy Birthday, dear Diana, Happy Birthday to you!! I pray your eyes and ears will continue to be wide open to all the miracles your Heavenly Father has in store for you as you allow His grace to mold and form you in His awesome love. You are loved and appreciated by many on this forum!  | ||
| Hrobinsonw Registered user Username: Hrobinsonw Post Number: 82 Registered: 7-2004 |
Diana, Happy belated birthday. The website is a wonderful way to minister. I pray that your personal story will cause others to see light. | ||
| Pheeki Registered user Username: Pheeki Post Number: 415 Registered: 1-2003 |
Remnant is up to it's old tricks. PASSION & BORN TO DIE UPDATES! The Lord has been blessing tremendously! Because of the continuing sales of The Passion of Love, Wal-Mart has just placed an order for Remnant Publication's new release Born to Die! Born to Die is the first section of The Desire of Ages beginning with Jesus' birth and continues through to just after His baptism. It will be book 1 of a 5 book series from the Desire of Ages, which is widely regarded as the best book ever written on the life of Jesus Christ aside from the Bible itself. As of October 28th, Wal-Mart has made a verbal agreement with Remnant Publications to carry a full, 5 part series from the Desire of Ages with a new book coming out every two months as these books sell well! Watch for Born to Die, taken from the first few chapters of the Desire of Ages, to arrive in Wal-Mart by the second week of December! For more information or for how you can help, call 800-423-1319. As these books have been selling doors are opening for Remnant Publications to get even more of these truth-filled books out! Each Wal-Mart store needs to sell 4- 5 books per week in order to make this project a local success. Please help us make this happen in your area! We can't do it without you! Hundreds of Bible study requests have been pouring into Remnant Publications mail box from people reading and being touched by the truths on the pages in The Passion of Love. John 12:32 "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me." IF YOUR LOCAL WAL-MART DOESN'T HAVE THE PASSION BOOK... here is how to get it: Two different companies manage the Wal-Mart book departments. The larger group is supplying the books, and to date the other group has not started carrying The Passion of Love. We have been in weekly, sometimes daily contact with the other group, working to resolve this issue. Please continue to pray for this matter. Here's what you can do to speed the process up! Go into your local Wal-Mart and ask to speak to or leave a message for the person who services the inspirational books. Politely tell them that this book is in other Wal-Mart stores and you and some other church members would like to buy these books at this Wal-Mart. If church members can purchase 4-5 books per store each week for 6 weeks, this will make the project a success and ensure the books stay on the shelves, reaching the people of your community for a longer period of time. Please help Remnant Publications make this book a local success in your area by praying, buying & sharing books and talking to your local Wal-Mart(s). Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ. Jeff Eldred @ Remnant Publications 649 East Chicago Road Coldwater, Michigan 49036 517-279-1304 xt 16 prayer@remnantpublications.com info@remnantpublications.com "Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good." Romans 12:21 | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 72 Registered: 10-2004 |
That is absolutely sick! This is exactly what they said before with the Passion book. They wanted all the SDAs the buy up all of the books, so that Wal-Mart would sell more EGW books! And now they are trying to do it again. They are trying to SCAM Wal-Mart! They want the SDAs to buy up all of the books, so that Wal-Mart will keep selling them. And then what's going to happen? When the SDAs stop buying the books, they won't sell very well and Wal-Mart will LOSE a bunch of money. This is nothing but a scam. Wal-Mart is going to end up suing Remnant! Jeremy | ||
| Pheeki Registered user Username: Pheeki Post Number: 418 Registered: 1-2003 |
I wrote wal-mart and tried to warn them and they sent me back a very nice "don't worry about us" letter. So they were warned. | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 908 Registered: 12-2003 |
Oh, Pheeki--this makes me feel sort-of overwhelmed. There really isn't much we can do on a large-scale basis, but we can pray. We can pray that people will be protected from deception and false doctrines, and we can pray that the true nature of ADventism will become kown. There's actually some perverse advantage in the Adventists making sure they buy several copies--even though these sales may keep the books on the shelves, probably most of the copies aren't going to people who might be vulnerable to them. Our greatest work really is prayer... Colleen | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 74 Registered: 10-2004 |
Colleen, I agree that it would be good if most of the copies are bought by SDAs, except for the fact that they will probably (and are "supposed" to) share the books with people.  Jeremy | ||
| Susan_2 Registered user Username: Susan_2 Post Number: 1086 Registered: 11-2002 |
I telephoed the toll-free # to W-M about the Passion book and spoke to a person in th book ordering department. I do think this sort of tactic is dishonest as to an outsider, a non-SDA the fact that all these books are flying off the shelves it would seem that the general public, the general run-of-the-mill W-M customer is purchasing these books and not that the sales are an "inside job". A question I have tho is how can they possibly get five books out of the D of A? If I remember correctly the D of A is a rather small book to begin with? How much are they charging for each of these small books? What are the SDA's going to do with all those books once they get them home? Another thig I remember very well from growing up SDA is that th SDA's are extremely discouraged from purchasing any Christian literature (books, brochures, magazines, musical cd's, tapes, everything Christian) from any retale outlet other than the ABC. The Sabbath School teachers and the Vacation Bible School teachers are not supposed to get any supplies from Christian outlets other than the ABC's. Therefore, I think it's really two-faced that they want everyone else to get the Adventist stuff from non-SDA sources. I have nevr read D of A. We were assigned it in 11th grade but I never could bring myself to open the book. I got a "D" in indoctranation class (AKA: Bible class) but it didn't matter because the next year I went back to public school and the clase wasn't counted anyway. | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 915 Registered: 12-2003 |
You're right, Jeremy--there's nothing good about this situation. But God is sovereign, so we trust Him and pray. Actually, Susan, DA is quite a big book. It wouldn't be hard to reduce it into five sub-books. Steps to Christ is the little book, as well as Thoughts from the Mount of Blessing. Colleen | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 720 Registered: 3-2004 |
Let us put this on our prayer list for Friday at sundown and Sabbath at 1 Pm. In fact, we have put it there as we have put people coming in contact with SDAs and SDA doctrine on the prayer chain. Prayer works miracles and remember GOD IS STILL IN CHARGE, EVEN WHEN WE CANNOT SEE IT. HE IS AWESOME. Diana | ||
| Susan_2 Registered user Username: Susan_2 Post Number: 1089 Registered: 11-2002 |
What is Mount Of Blessigs? Is that a EGW book? I have never heard of it. Is it still being promoted in the ABC mailings and the in the advertisments in the SDA magazines? What's it about? | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 723 Registered: 3-2004 |
Susan_2, Thoughts from the Mount of Blessings is an EGW book. I do not remember what it is all about. Diana | ||
| Dd Registered user Username: Dd Post Number: 192 Registered: 7-2004 |
Thoughts from the Mount of Blessings is about Jesus' sermon on the mount - Matthew 5,6,7. It is the only Bible class I can even remember taking in college because I really liked the study - it was the only "real" Bible class I ever think I took. It actually made sense to me. Now as a former I need to re-read it to catch all the SDA indoctrination that I am sure is in it. | ||
| Susan_2 Registered user Username: Susan_2 Post Number: 1090 Registered: 11-2002 |
I recently asked my mom when she went to La Sierra if she took any classes in Christian history. She told me the only religion class that was an absolute requirement was the Daniel and Revelations class. I assume the class was the SDA doctrine on that. I asked her that question because I had mentiond the destruction of the temple in the year 70 AD. She had no idea what I was talking about so I asked her if she was required to take Christian history. Which brings me to another topic; generally it's my opinion that most SDA's are very uninformed about Christianity. It's too bad. They seem to know their proof texts taken out of context and that's about it. | ||
| Raven Registered user Username: Raven Post Number: 92 Registered: 7-2004 |
Back when I took some college at Andrews University many years ago, it's kind of sad that the only religion classes I took were ones like "Life and Writings of EGW", and "Issues in the Great Controversy". I could have taken one about the life of Jesus, but that was considered incredibly basic, and mostly for the non-SDA's or the new SDA's. I did get straight A's in those classes, and even wrote a term paper about EGW where it sounds like I believe in her 100% and that she's the greatest woman that ever lived. I still have the paper. I have to admit I didn't feel that way about EGW even back then, but I said what I had to say to get the grade--shame on me! The other reason I took the EGW-type classes is because I was having many questions even back then and hoped the classes would help me sort things out. Now that I've finally returned to college, it is embarrassing for me to have so many EGW classes sitting on my transcripts! So far no one has commented. I'm also thinking it would be nice someday to have a real religion class! | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 918 Registered: 12-2003 |
I also remember hoping that my Daniel and Revelation class in college would settle my confusion. Although I'd studied all those SDA time-lines and charts and the sanctuary service and the IJ in academy, it had never made sense to me. I took D&R during the summer between my junior and senior years, and I remember feeling really eager to delve into the class and finally learn how it all fit together. I really had the hope that the Bible would explain all my vague understandings and questions. As the class progressed, I became disillusioned very quickly. It was just as confusing as it had ever been, and the teacher was boring, and the the material didn't make sense, and the Bible texts did not explain the IJ to me AT ALL. I remember resigning myself to being confused and just shelving my questions. They resurfaced a few years later, though...thanks to Desmond Ford, I finally got REAL Bible answers to all those questions about the IJ! Colleen | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 726 Registered: 3-2004 |
The one Bible class I remember taking at La Sierra was about Jesus and we used the DOA as our text book. I did not get good grades with this class as the theology of the class just did not make sense to me. Thank God that is in the past and God redeems all our mistakes. He is awesome. Diana | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 756 Registered: 3-2004 |
I started this thread telling you about SDAs who sent me birthday greetings. I wrote back and thanked them for the greetings and told them I was no longer SDA and why and sent the URLS of about 3 websites written by former SDAs. I heard from one who asked that I keep sending him information. What I will do is just tell him to go to the websites I have already sent to him and go to their links. He can get all the information he wants from them if he is really sincere and wants to know. Diana | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 1184 Registered: 3-2004  |
Instead of starting a new thread I will write here. I told about belonging to a dating web site that is owned by an SDA couple. It is for all Christians. Recently 2 men have written to me. In my profile I say I was raised SDA but now I am not. I do not say why in my profile, so when the SDAs write to me I tell them why I am no longer SDA. One of the men did not answer me, but the 2nd one has. He asked about the plagiarism of the book of Revelation. That I have never heard before. He said most of it had been taken from the OT. My reply was I believe all the Bible is inspired by God, even Revelation. Now, can any of you enlighten me about the supposed plagiarism of Revelation. This man wrote that he only reads the conflict series of EGW. I told him I do not read anything by her. That her plagiarism and having others write for her, then saying she was inspired by God was just not right in my book. He sounds like he is going toward evangelical but I am not sure about the rest. I have a sneaking suspicion he is going to try to get me back into the SDA church. I need help about this supposed Revelation plagiarism. Thanks for your help. Diana |
