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| Belvalew Registered user Username: Belvalew Post Number: 219 Registered: 7-2004 |
Yes, I had it happen to me as well. The Pastor posted a statement on a thread then locked it down. It said essentially that he was embarrassed because there wasn't the kind of continuity the site had been enjoying before we showed up, and he was wondering how people were responding to that. He said it was because there were some posting that didn't have any respect for the Sabbath and were devising biblical support for their position. Point two was that we didn't want to have our style cramped by the Sabbath. I copied and pasted his post into an active thread and responded to it. It was a lengthy response making it clear that we respected the Sabbath as the shadow that preceeded Christ, and that the Sabbath didn't cramp our style, that in fact knowing the Gospel in relationship with the Sabbath made it all the more valuable, for the aforementioned reason. It still says that I was the last one to post on that thread, but my post is nowhere to be found. C'est la vie. I rather expected that. Belva | ||
| Greg Registered user Username: Greg Post Number: 83 Registered: 2-2005 |
Belva, I saw your post before it was deleted. I actually started a new thread in the Town Hall section on that topic, and it hasn't been deleted yet. Link here Your post was very similar to mine, so mine will probably be deleted eventually. Greg | ||
| Belvalew Registered user Username: Belvalew Post Number: 220 Registered: 7-2004 |
Please forgive, I didn't allow for the fact that others might be responding at the same time as me. I meant to say that I had a post on the R/S site just up and dissappear. | ||
| Greg Registered user Username: Greg Post Number: 84 Registered: 2-2005 |
I guess all the discussion about the Trinity is just too much for Richard O'Ffill. I'm now banned from the forum. Greg | ||
| Belvalew Registered user Username: Belvalew Post Number: 221 Registered: 7-2004 |
How amazing that we would have both pounced on that locked-down statement at the same time. I'm glad our approaches were consistent. But then, why wouldn't they be. In Jesus Belva | ||
| Jjustinn Registered user Username: Jjustinn Post Number: 4 Registered: 3-2005 |
Did he talk to you about it? Or where you just...gone? I thought he only said not to talk about Ellen White? Guess Walk will be happy enough... | ||
| Belvalew Registered user Username: Belvalew Post Number: 222 Registered: 7-2004 |
What is the matter with the trinity? That is basic Christian doctrine. I was taught about the trinity in SDA schools. I had to do some fine-tuning once I found the gospel but I was fortunate enough to either have a couple of born-again teachers, or I just wasn't paying that much attention in class so I didn't buy into the wrong things too deeply. I sang in the choir and sang all the gospel songs. I think I learned more about Jesus from songs than from teachers anyway. The doxology was my tutor for the trinity. That's why I keep referring people back to the classic hymns like "Blessed Assurance." Belva | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 448 Registered: 10-2004  |
Greg, maybe it was your last post on the "wondering after the beast" thread that got you banned? Maybe he did not like your references to extra-Biblical sources. Jeremy | ||
| Greg Registered user Username: Greg Post Number: 85 Registered: 2-2005 |
Justin, no discussion, just gone. In my earlier email with Richard O'Ffill, we agreed that I wouldn't talk about EGW but there were no restrictions otherwise. Belva, evidently he didn't like the direction the thread "wondering after the beast" was headed. Catholics hold as their most central doctrine the Trinity. Certain Adventists build doctrines around their anti-Catholocism (Sabbath as the seal of God, mark of the beast, etc.), so when they realize that the Trinity doctrine is central to both faiths, they experience "cognitive dissonance". Some are so anti-Catholic they are not willing to believe in the Trinity! Greg | ||
| Belvalew Registered user Username: Belvalew Post Number: 223 Registered: 7-2004 |
I was just looking at Greg's post on "wondering..." and Walk was gloating to Bible Truth that Greg doesn't believe the Catholics changed the Sabbath. I think it is time we leave them to their own little version of Babylon. Isn't that what Babylon means anyway, confusion? It was an interesting experience while it lasted. | ||
| Jjustinn Registered user Username: Jjustinn Post Number: 5 Registered: 3-2005 |
Greg, maybe you should ask him about it. It almost seems out of character for him to go against a deal he made with you. Dunno, with the 'red flag' confusion, it might be worth asking him. | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 449 Registered: 10-2004 |
I'm trying to figure out the meaning of Walk's latest post to Bucky:
--http://www.revivalsermons.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=549&start=15 I have this strong urge to reply and say, "Glad to see that you agree with us now, Walk!" Hehe.  Jeremy (Message edited by jeremy on March 16, 2005) | ||
| Jjustinn Registered user Username: Jjustinn Post Number: 6 Registered: 3-2005 |
I think he is being clever. Awhile back Walk posted kinda long and Bucky just said 'ok' | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 450 Registered: 10-2004 |
Ah, maybe that explains it then! Jeremy | ||
| Chris Registered user Username: Chris Post Number: 722 Registered: 7-2003  |
Perhaps Pastor O'Ffil's concern for "unity" on his sight has more to do with his fear that lurkers are now beginning to see some of the skeletons in the SDA closet (case in point being cultic views of the Trinity and the deity of Jesus). Maybe people like Hank Hannegraff just might change their minds about Adventism if they ever discovered what many within Adventism REALLY believe. Chris | ||
| Greg Registered user Username: Greg Post Number: 86 Registered: 2-2005 |
Chris, I think you are right. Initially, I was really surprised that he deleted my post about Catholics believing in the Trinity. I can understand why he wouldn't want anyone talking about EGW, but the Trinity? Probably the overriding concern was that I was making a doctrinal connection between Adventism and Roman Catholocism. It's just sad that some are willing to sacrifice their belief in the deity of Christ to remain doctrinally-opposed to Catholics. Greg | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 1611 Registered: 12-2003  |
While I haven't read the O'Fill site recently, I must say that the question of the Trinity has been a murky issue in Adventism since its inception. In spite of the Fundamental Beliefs which state a tradidtional Trinitarian doctrine, scholars and theolgoians inside the church don't agree on what it is. Ever since that doctrinal statement came out in 1980 there's been a reaction to it. Some people are returning to anti-trinitarian stances. Some are spinning into more liberal ideas--some are more tri-theistic, etc. There's a reason Adventists have trouble talking about Jesus and in seeing him as Sovereign God. The founders of the church did not believe He was Eternal God, and the church didn't adopt an official trinitarian doctrine until 1946. Even though it's not an issue most Adventists think about, it really is an unsettled issue within the church. I know Adventists in graduate-level teaching/preaching positions in SDA institutions who do not subscribe to Jesus as Sovereign Lord. I suspect that talking about the Trinity and the Catholics just brought up more "issues" than the poor man could handle. You're right, though, Chris--those kinds of exchanges are really important for lurkers to read. How else will the truth be exposed? It's in hearing the same kinds of stories from many different people that reality begins to break through. Colleen | ||
| Belvalew Registered user Username: Belvalew Post Number: 225 Registered: 7-2004 |
Did anyone else notice Mr. Alarmist Colporteur's post about President Bush. He said something along the lines that Bush is recommending a One-World Bank. Jeremy threw water on him by posting the following: ---------- That is actually misinformation. All President Bush did was choose Paul Wolfowitz to head the World Bank--a bank which has been around since the close of World War II! ---------- If we don't stick around there, at least once in a while, who is to keep them all from running of a cliff like that poor herd of swine? Belva | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 1211 Registered: 3-2004  |
Last night I wrote a message to Pastor O'Ffill. It is copied below with his response. I do not understand his response, but then there is a lot I do not understand about that group. Now I am being sarcastic. His reply makes no sense to me. Diana Diana, I just went to the register section. The only boxes that are required are the first four the ones with the * . Please try again. Others seemingly not having problems. -----Original Message----- From: Diana [mailto:DRL-OTR@juno.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:17 PM To: Richard O'Ffill Subject: RevivalSermons.org Contact Form Submission Form: Main Contact Us Form Subject: RevivalSermons.org Contact Form Submission Name: Diana Email: DRL-OTR@juno.com EmailConfirmed: DRL-OTR@juno.com HowSiteFound: other Comments: Pastor O'Ffill, I received your email telling me I was restricted to writing only where there is a red star. I do not see a red star anywhere. My question is, do you or do you not want me to write on this web site?? If not, please tell me why. Thank you for the opportunity to witness for our Saviour, Jesus Christ, on this web site. As always I close with a prayer that God leads every one writing on this web site to His truths in the Bible. Diana ---------------------- Local: Tue 15 Mar 2005 11:17:17pm referrer: 66-42-99-103.lvsg.dial.netzero.com | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 451 Registered: 10-2004 |
Diana, Apparently he thought you were talking about trying to register on the site. Maybe Greg is correct, and it was not really Richard O'Ffill that wrote you the first email, but someone pretending to be him. Jeremy |
