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Pw
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Posted on Friday, May 06, 2005 - 12:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I didn't feel like reading back on all the posts, so you were an easy target.

Since it's not your doing, you are forgiven. :-)
Susan_2
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Posted on Friday, May 06, 2005 - 2:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My favorite health restriction by EGW is the one banning mixing sugar and milk. Around 30 years ago I went to a Sabbath afternoon social with a group of young adults from the Fresno Central SDA Church. I offered to bring ice crean. I was quickly told by the hostess that EGW said to never mix milk and sugar because the stonach liquids converts it to alcohol and she then told me she would no more eat ice crean than drink beer. I went home wondering if Mother's Against Drunk Driving (MADD) has notified the highway patrol to stop drivers leaving birthday parties for toddlers, you know all that ica cream can be deadly! Now, whenever the SDA's get to spouting about their health message I just ask them if they eat ice cream, flavored yougart, sugar on their morning cereal, etc. Usually thought they just think I'm being an ass (I am) and I think they are stupid (They are) and we each just go our seperate way.
Weimarred
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Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 4:25 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jeremy, I'm aghast! I would never, absolutely, positively never get off on a tangent :-)

Having said that (and not been struck by lightning), I have a confession to make.

When I was younger, I would occasionally read through the ingredients on a box of crackers, and say "OH NO! LARD!"

Boy, I'm glad those days are over!

Colleentinker
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Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 8:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was so relieved when I realized I could finally eat Oreos with a clear conscience! The lard was no longer an issue---

Colleen
Riverfonz
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Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 10:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

But with Oreos, don't forget about the trans-fats, as they are potentially harmful to your physical health, but not to your spiritual health. Stan
Weimarred
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Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 10:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You know, I think it's just around the corner where they're going to treat "unhealthy" eaters the same way they treat smokers now.

Legalism seems to be seeping into our society.

Rats, I thought I got away from all that!
Colleentinker
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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 11:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stan, I know, unfortunately! I actually can't remember the last time I ate an Oreo! But still, the fact that if I WANT to I can, instead of substituting a Sunshine Hydrox cookie, is so freeing!!

Colleen

Jeremy
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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 2:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually, I believe Oreos are now lard-free--but instead, they have the less healthy hydrogenated oils!

So now even an SDA can enjoy an Oreo--except for the sugar thing...and the caffeine...and... ;-)

Jeremy
Riverfonz
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Posted on Monday, May 09, 2005 - 5:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Right Jeremy, lard is harmless, but trans-fats have been proven to be very harmful. Stan
Pw
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 8:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I believe that SDA's didn't approve of Oreos because that's what the guards sang outside the Wicked Witch's (EGW) castle in the Wizard of Oz. O-R-E-O, ORREEEEEOOOO!
Colleentinker
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ha! Your humor is great, Pw!

Colleen
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 11:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is so trivial and random, but just crossed my mind. Have the rest of you former SDAs noticed that you don't seem to know all the cartoons of our generation that the rest of the world knows? (The ones that were on Saturday mornings.)

And more than that, I've noticed that I haven't seen any of the Disney movies that came out in my time (mid 60's to early 70's.) I guess they were only shown at theaters in those days. Disney songs and movies that the rest of the world knows verse by verse, I have never seen. Of course due to commercialism I know who Bambi is and Pinnochio, etc. But never saw the movies.

Also, where I grew up all the "public school" kids went roller skating on Friday nights. It was the night for roller skating. Therefore, I never roller-skated as a kid.....always was fascinated by the roller rinks, wondering what they were like inside and all that. It was such a big Friday nite thing, that it somehow tarnished the whole sport in my family.

Oh well, It's not anything to mourn, just kind of weird.
Tisha
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 1:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know what you mean about being "illiterate" when it comes to cartoons and movies from our childhoods. It creates quite a gap when relating to others about those days. We didn't have TV when I was growing up. In fact even after I was married and had children, it wasn't until 1984 that we got a TV to watch the Winter Olympics because my children ice-skated with the Roslyn Summers, the Silver Medalist, who came from our area! So I feel at a real disadvantage when references are made to TV, movies, songs, etc.

I went to a boarding Academy and we had lots of roller skating in the school gym. That was the thing to do on Wednesday and Saturday evenings. But I don't think we would have gone to a public roller rink and associated with "those worldly people"!

It's funny though because we did have Church sponsored ice-skating parties at the local ice rink. Maybe it was "Christian Night" or something - I seem to remember that the music was supposed to be different just for us.

In a way I'm glad that I didn't have TV earlier because my kids learned how to really play. Their friends would come over and be "bored" because we didn't have TV, but they had acres of woods, a creek, a pond and animals to play with. They had tree houses, tire swings, archery, and many other outdoor activities to keep them active! HOW COULD THEIR FRIENDS BE BORED??

I guess it is a trade-off, but I think there is a balance that can be reached with some of both. I want my granddaughter to experience the "country life" here with grammy & poppy because she is getting plenty of the other at home! But I have collected plenty of DVD's for those rainy days when she is with us!

-tisha
Pw
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 1:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

zW<}£?involved with the SDA, I remember an elderly woman telling me how her children resented not being able to go ice skating with their friends on a Friday night. Imagine the anger that must have boiled deep inside each week when they were off limits to any activities due to sabbath regulations. She said once they left home they quit the SDA and became worldly. On one hand I felt sorry for the lady, but on the other hand, I can't blame those kids for breaking free, even if it meant becoming worldly.
Belvalew
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 3:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just love that term, "Worldly." Whenever SDA's have to call something the boogey man, they call it worldly. We all live in this world, and yes, I know we're not "of the world," but as a kid I really wanted to know what it was like to be worldly and enjoy music, dancing, laughter...all that stuff. My friends who were "worldly" didn't seem much different than me other than they got to enjoy certain things I was told were taboo. These were good Christian kids, and the worst they were doing was drinking cokes and going to sock hops. Wow! Thanks for a short stroll down memory lane.
Belva
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 5:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As a kid, my parents would visit an uncle, my mother's brother, who had a TV and I got to watch it there. I also listened to the radio-The Lone Ranger, The Cisco Kid, and I forget the others we were allowed to listen to. My Dad and Mom liked to listen to them, so we got to listen also. I said before that at family get togethers, such as a wedding, we got to dance, so I learned to dance.
Mom told us all the fairy tales, so I learned them. Now when it came to my son, I remember reading in EGW, that children should not hear or have fairy tales read to them. So, being a "good
SDA Mom" I did not read my son any of that stuff.
I remember one time on Sesame Street a fairy tale was mentioned and I shut it off. God must have spoken to me, because I quit doing that and my son grew up with Sesame Street. Instead of fairy tales, I read him true stories, not SDA, but true ones and stories about nature. Do any of you remember Sam Campbell and his nature stories. I got ahold of most of his books and read them to my son and now he wants them for his son.
My sisters and I did not roller skate. Our older brother and sister used to ice skate at the local rink, so we went ice skating. We ice skated to the latest songs at the time. I still have my racing skates that I bought with my baby sitting money. The speed skating races were on Thursday evening, so that is when we skated, as my older sister was on the speed skating team. That is where I met my ex, at the ice skating rink, through my older sister. But, Mom always got us up on Sabbath morning and sent us to church. She stopped going, but she made sure we went until as we got older my sisters and brothers stopped going. I kept on going, when every one else had stopped. Looking back, I felt so superior, because I was the only one "keeping the Sabbath" from my family. Mom had her reasons for not going and I have since found out what they were. My Mom was quite a woman and I will not say in which way. I never told her I knew why she quit going to church when we were growing up. That is between her and God. So my parents let us be worldly as long as we went to church on Sabbath.
I used to wonder about the dichotomy, but was raised to never question our parents or teachers.
The first boy to kiss me was a boy I met at the skating rink. It was not an SDA boy. This is bringing back some pleasant memories and I thank God that we were allowed to enjoy life to a certain degree, away from the SDA church.
He has had His hand on me since I was a kid, I am just realizing. Another "whoa" moment. He is so awesome.
Diana
Colleentinker
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 - 9:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

True, I didn't know any of the cartoons or movie stars of my day. (Actually, I don't know many now, either...) But with no TV, I just had very little knowledge of pop culture. I'm not sure that's BAD per se, but our reasons for not knowing are the problem.

Our family didn't have a TV either. I could hardly take my eyes off a screen whenever I found myself in a room with one turned on. TV was one of the best parts of visiting my grandparents!!

Colleen
Raven
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Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 10:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Colleen, I can really relate to your post when you said "I could hardly take my eyes off a screen whenever I found myself in a room with one turned on." I also grew up without a TV, and that was also my experience whenever we visited relatives. I would literally watch intensely for hours until my eyes and head ached. However, the homes of relatives that I watched TV at were SDA's, even conservative ones--that's why I felt so out of place. I didn't even fit into regular SDAism!

I also recall in elementary school, when there would be an occasional movie of educational value (such as Johnny Tremain), that I would be constantly asking someone to explain things to me as it went along because I wasn't used to processing plots on a screen and it was confusing to me.
Colleentinker
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Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 1:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Raven! I hadn't thought of that phenomenon for years! I used to have the same problem with movies!

I'll never forget seeing Ben Hur for the first time my freshman year at WWC. The humanities dept. showed it one Sunday evening for a sort of "cultural event" or "classics evening"--whatever!

I went with three of my good friends from academy--who were quite the sophisticated media connoisseurs! TV was old hat, movies were familiar, etc. I was completely CONSUMED with that movie. I kept asking the girl next to me what was said, what was happening, who was who--she was good natured enough, but she finally told me just to watch and see.

As the action heated up during that chariot race, I could not convince myself it was "just a movie". I was gripping my chair, breathing fast, TERRIFIED!

I also felt quite intellectually compromised that I couldn't figure out what was going on like my friends could. Of course, as the movie progressed, I understood things better and better. But I was blown away. You can tell--all these years later, my reaction to that movie jumps out at me with intense clarity.

(OK, calm down--that was years ago...)

Colleen
Belvalew
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Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2005 - 1:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My fascination was with Christmas trees. I remember accompanying my parents to the home of one of their friends and they had a huge tree covered with every imaginable decoration possible. The tree had been flocked, and they had icicles on it, but the thing that had me mesmerized were the bubble lights. I truly think I was entranced when it came time for us to leave.

When I grew up and was out on my own, I scoured all of the stores looking for bubble lights. They are still my favorite decoration.
Belva

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