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Riverfonz
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Username: Riverfonz
Post Number: 658
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 6:02 pm: |     |
Chris,
I agree, that is one of the best comprehensive statements on the gospel that there is. I also was impressed by the variety of people who signed the statement, including a lot of my favorites.
What is also very interesting is the statement on what the atonement is and is not, especially since on the Spectrum forum we are going to see a lot of liberal views on the atonement. They clearly said that anyone who denies the substitutionary propitiating atonement of Christ is denying the gospel. This is exactly what liberal Adventism is doing when they deny the blood atonement, or for that matter liberalism in general, because there is a lot of it in the so-called evangelical world, but that statement really defines what an evangelical is.
Stan |
Javagirl
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Username: Javagirl
Post Number: 44
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 6:45 pm: | |
Thanks Chris, that is helpful. I scanned the link, and it just made me feel blessed reading it briefly. I saved it for further in depth review! |
Jeremy
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Username: Jeremy
Post Number: 929
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 6:47 pm: | |
Historical/Conservative/Traditional Adventism also denies the atonement of Jesus on the cross.
And the atonement is not even complete until Satan bears the sins of the righteous, according to the satanic scapegoat doctrine. This is Adventism's unique (blasphemous and satanic!!!) version of "limited atonement"!!
Jeremy |
Riverfonz
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Username: Riverfonz
Post Number: 659
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 8:02 pm: | |
Jeremy,
Isn't it interesting that Reformed theology is considered heretical by historical SDAs because it teaches that Christ died only for the elect. But in their religion, Satan is the scapegoat and the sin-bearer of the elect.
Stan
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Jwd
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Username: Jwd
Post Number: 73
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 12:14 pm: | |
Jeremy,
Thanks for the info. I shall follow your lead and see if it will work for me as well.
Appreciate it.
Jess |
Riverfonz
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Username: Riverfonz
Post Number: 667
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 8:31 am: | |
Belva, Your post on the Spectrum forum under the Why Jesus Died? thread was truly a great statement of faith. What a great witness you have been over there.
Stan |
Belvalew
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Username: Belvalew
Post Number: 622
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 2:06 pm: | |
Thanks, Stan, but someone has just posted and spanked me for taking a little poetic license. That's okay, though, because that individual didn't go out on a limb and state how he feels about why Jesus died. It reminds me so much of sitting in bible classes and having everything intellectualized to death! |
Belvalew
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Username: Belvalew
Post Number: 623
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 2:07 pm: | |
By the way, did you notice that they stripped off the thread about EGW? |
Ishmael
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Username: Ishmael
Post Number: 4
Registered: 8-2000
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 5:30 pm: | |
I haven't been on this website in some time. I didn't know that we were supposed to pray for the Adventist Church any more than a NT christian was supposed to pray for the Laodicean Church. I guess I am still trying to find my way now that I don't have the benefit of having the "gospel" presented to me from a cultural perspective. (I am trying to not us the word "cult"; I don't think I know what that is nowadays anyway). |
Helovesme2
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Username: Helovesme2
Post Number: 224
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2005 - 6:24 pm: | |
 I don't know that we're 'supposed to' pray for the Adventist church, just that we do because we care about the people who are still where we used to be.
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Flyinglady
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Username: Flyinglady
Post Number: 1798
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 12:30 pm: | |
Belva,
I noticed the absence of the EGW thread this morning and made a comment about it, supporting you and Stan.
As I have said before, so we continue praying for them.
Our God is so awesome.
Diana |
Riverfonz
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Username: Riverfonz
Post Number: 672
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 8:07 pm: | |
And Diana, thanks for your contributions! Since the link is archived, I will post it again www.spectrummagazine.org/phpbb
Stan |
