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Chris
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Posted on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 5:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Okay, I admit I'm kind of a technology geek, but I just think this is super cool (and best yet, it's free)! It's a little application called "InstaVerse" that runs in your task bar.

Whenever you see a Bible text on a web page or even in any discussion on this forum, just put your cursor over it and that verse will instantly pop up. You can then scroll up or down to see the surrounding verses for context as well.

So if someone on this forum said something like, "Well it's clear to me that Hebrews 4:9 refers to resting in Christ through belief" all you would do is put your cursor over the text reference and you would instantly see the entire vers and surrounding verses! In fact, Hebrews 4:9 popped up while I was typing this.

Also, if you are writing an e-mail or a lesson, you can type a reference like Psalm 23, hit Alt F8, and the Bible text for Psalm 23 will appear in your document instantly.

Go to www.instaverse.com to see a demo and download your free copy with the KJV Bible.

Enjoy, and let me know what you think. Maybe I'm the only geek that really thinks this is cool. :-)

Chris
Brian3
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Posted on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 5:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have to admit to geekiness.

I carry 3 bible versions and a strongs lexicon and references every time I go to church!

.....On my Palm Zire31 :-)

Actually I'm using it more lately to listen to Bible Study MP3's I've downloaded!

Cool Tool!
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Posted on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 6:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks so very much, Chris! I am downloading right as I type this! I can't wait to use it--you are a true friend indeed!
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Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 3:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris thanks for the information about Instaverse. Unforunately it does not work on the Macintosh but your still my friend. :-)

Richard

rtruitt@mac.com


PS: I have 6 translations on my PDA and also The United Bible Societies' New Testament Handbook Series. :-)
Violet
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Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 5:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris--Bring on the geekiness I love it.
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Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 9:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris - I just downloaded Instaverse. I am amazed. You got the whole Bible at your fingertips with just a click. And it's easy. I hesitated to do it cause I thought it would be a hassle to figure it out. No figuring-just click.:-) THANKS!!!!
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Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 12:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Would be nicer if you didn't have to pay extra for all the "good" versions. Why am I so ungrateful? LOL :-)
Cheapskaterly,
Hannah
Chris
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Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 12:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard, I'll be sure to add that to my upcoming book "101 Reasons Not to Have a Mac". :-)

Chris
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Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 6:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris, :-)

Richard
Seekr777
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Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2005 - 6:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just realized the previous post I just left is probably one of the shortest on here. :-)

Richard


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Posted on Sunday, October 30, 2005 - 7:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Chris for the cool Bible tool, it's like magic since I'm not a geek!!
Esther
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Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 6:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks Chris! I'm headed there right now!
Melissa
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Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 7:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I still like e-sword (www.e-sword.net)...just cuz I don't prefer KJV. It doesn't work on mac either, I don't know of any free Bibles that do, but it also has other "versions" some you buy, some for free.

And for my vote, I'd take a mac OS over a pc any day. Stay strong, Richard. You're not the only "mac" fan! :-) I am very blessed to be surrounded by nearly 2000 of them every workday ... :-)

(Message edited by melissa on November 01, 2005)
Seekr777
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Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 2:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Melissa, it's not free but the best Macintosh Bible software I've used is by Accordance. Very quick and full featured. Many add on modules. I've known a couple of Bible students who bought a Mac just to use that software.

Recently Quickverse came out with a Macintosh version and I tryed it and was so disappointed. I was allowed to return it for a refund since I was well known and had bought many books from the store. So I'm back using Accordance. :-)

I have software from both Olive Tree and Laridan for my PDA. I have the AMP, MSG, NASB, NIV study bible, NLT, NJPS - Tanakh, and the UBS which is a comentary used by translators.

It's amazing what I can pack on my PDA. :-)

In Christ,

Richard

rtruitt@mac.com


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Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 3:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, yes, I'm a Mac person, too! I also have Accordance, Richard.

Yes, Meslissa--I have to say I'll take a Mac any day over a PC. (And they have the added advantage of being imprevious to most computer viruses!)

Colleen
Melissa
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Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 3:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have read up on that Accordance software. I'm tempted, but I also have virtual pc and have "intentions" (as in not yet actions) to try my Bible software on there. I have a couple of PC versions which I can run on my son's system, but then I have to deal with getting on it.... :-)

I may yet jump in and buy Accordance. It seems like it is pretty robust and the demo was nice. The customer comments are positive in general (beyond price...which is no different for any mac software....)

Yep, our PCs at work consistently get all sorts of viruses and spystuff...the macs are typically safe in that regard. I think it's one of the reasons they keep macs in-house, when most of the major softwares are available now on pc. If our entire creative community got attacked by a virus, it would cost more than the few hundreds they'd save in hardware costs at the front end.

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Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 3:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Melissa, what type of work do you do where there are so many Macs?

I don't think you would ever be unhappy with Accordance, I've used it for years and it just keeps getting better. I know what you mean by the price. :-)

Quickverse seemed so slow and "klunky" in comparison. Sorry Colleen for the made up word. :-)

Richard

rtruitt@mac.com


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Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 6:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A question for all of you out there...

I downloaded instaverse.com Cool tool!

Have any of you tried BiblePro from bibleocean.com? It is FREE software with different Bible versions, a Bible dictionary, etc. You can buy modules for $25/module.

Running the demo is slow (I only have dialup where I live), but it looks pretty good.

I wondered if any of you had any experience with this or not?

Thanks!

InSearchOf
Melissa
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Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 8:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I work at "a major greeting card company". When you care enough ... Most of the creative staff and pockets of other areas are on macs. I "grew up" with them starting with the mac plus back in 1986. I was working in a publications group ... my first full time job was as a typesetter for a small agricultural newspaper. That gave me the background for the position I eventually got putting together store diagrams to show field reps how to put up the displays. Did that for 10 years...what an evolution through that job. We started on typewriters using paste-up boards, then got our first PCs, then macs. Back before there was "tech support" for the mac, we did our own so we learned by fire and networking. Though my masters is in health administration, I eventually took a position in IT supporting the creative community. It is a job I truly love. They break 'em, we fix 'em.

At least here, it's hard to find resellers that even care about their mac customers. I heard a check out clerk congratulating a guy for his new doorstop. I'm surprised the guy walked out of the store with it after that kind of remark. I think I'd have made my purchase elsewhere! But we have an apple store now. That's cool.

Sorry if that's more than you wanted to know :-).

(Message edited by melissa on November 01, 2005)
Chris
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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 6:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"I heard a check out clerk congratulating a guy for his new doorstop."

Admittedly, that was a pretty rude comment, but tech geeks view Macs as being the proverbial "black boxes" (in other words, something that doesn't allow you to tinker with it very much.

Those of us that build our own rigs, do constant upgrades, play with overclocking, and generally spend more time with the cover off then with it on would never be happy with a Mac.

It's the difference between having a compact Japanese-made car that requires a dealership just to be able to change the oil and having a custom hod-rod that you built yourself and can tinker with in your garage. :-)

Chris
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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 8:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Melissa, I was interested in hearing about the work you do. I spent many years as a technical illustrator for Boeing. I did the electrical wiring installation production illustrations for the 737, 747, 757, 767, 777 airplanes. I eventually moved into the engineering wire installation group and now do the wiring installation modeling the illustrators use to make their production drawings. I started on the drawing board with ink on mylar, moved to a mixed ink/paste up process, then to drawing on the computer (using raster and vector mixed), and finally to true computer generated modelling. What an evolution in processes the computer brought to our professions! I really enjoy using my artistic/creative skills in a technical environment. I work on a mainframe using unix and x2pc, and CATIA. Unfortunately for me, the computing system is so complex and all "behind the scenes" that now I have lost touch with most aspects of it. I just use it and call the Support Desk for help! And my degree is in Applied Behavioral Science, with 3 years of Occupational Therapy also! What a mixed-up resume I have!

Speaking of Bible Tools, I have the NET Bible, from Bible.org. I enjoying using it. I want to get the PDA version, but haven't yet. I like the NET Bible because of all the translator notes. I also like the NASB Bible. Have any of you used the NET Bible or the PDA software for it? It is available through Olive Tree (if I remember correctly).

-tisha
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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 10:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, Chris--as the only female in a household of Y-chromosomed tech geeks, I know that there is great satisfaction in building your own computer. Roy, who has loved programming for and "playing" with PCs since early in high school, has nevertheless never allowed owning a Mac to stop him from "tinkering"--appropriately enough. I don't even want to know how many times he has opened up his iBook and changed out parts, etc.

All three of these Tinkers, however, have a serious artistic/creative streak, and they absolutely swear by their Macs for video editing, interactive DVD programming, web design and animation, etc.

Richard absorbed the advances in art technology as they developed after getting his degree in public relations with an emphasis in graphic arts (then entirely done by hand, of course.) Both boys are pursuing degrees in computer science--I've always laughed at the fact that while many moms stumble over toy trucks, transformers, and sports gear, I usually tripped over tangles of wires, cords, half-apart cassette players, batteries, make-shift motors, and Legos. Not to mention discarded computer parts, etc.

Ah, well--they may be geeky, but that brings with it the creative, subtle humor that keeps me laughing. I wouldn't trade 'em!

Colleen
Melissa
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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 10:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, Chris. We are well aware the mac is the step-child. Most of the powers-that-be are very confused by those white or silver things sitting on people's desktops...except to know they cost more than the black or beige things. (And I know variety is coming to the PC case world...especially for the BYO).

Tisha, at one point, we used MiniCad to do some of our drawings...I think that is as close to CAD as I've gotten. We had big autotrol systems for a while that used to do our drawings that we then shrunk down to a fraction of their original size. Then the mac came in, and we had to learn to do our own. Scale didn't really matter, it was just a rough illustration. Consequently, during my publications career, I became a "keyline artist". Basically doing lineart schematics of how to put fixtures together. I used to say I couldn't draw a straight line without a computer. I am not an artist! But I love my "virtual scrapbooks" and the dimension that music ads to pictures.

I probably take more mac's apart than most. I get to swap out a lot of things as they fail, but no, I've never messed with "overclocking". My son has a "home made" PC, but we've replaced all the guts in it two times over the old HP ready made I had. I'm not sure I enjoy homebuilt systems when every warranty item requires being without until it shows up in the mail box. His 8-month old MB lost its NIC, so I just bought him a new network card rather than having to disassembled the whole thing to send in the MB and wait for it to come back and then reassemble the whole thing. I know enough about PC hardware to swap out things, but I never mess with BIOS settings or anything like that. Really geeky types can mess with the mac settings, but I don't mess with unix unless forced...and only then with line by line instruction. And we too have old video cards laying around that I'm not sure work and zip drives and other components. When the PC blew up last winter, the HD was still covered by warranty so I went ahead and sent it in...but what do you do with a 60 GB hard drive? I had already replaced it with a 200 GB. So, it sits in a box on my desk. Not even worth an enclosure to use as an external.

And how many are reading these things in total confusion? :-) It beats talking about the quandries of 3rd party payers and quality outcomes any day!
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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 11:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anybody want to talk Department of Homeland Security and United States Citizenship and Immigration Services? How about NSEERS and SEVIS? :-)
Chris
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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 12:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Heh, heh, if I just had a buck for every old video card, hard drive, floppy drive, or stick of memory I have laying around my house, I'd.....well......I'd just buy more, I guess.

Actually I sell a lot of my old parts on E-bay because they're still viable (and in some cases desirable), but I just have a need for the latest and greatest when it comes to PC hardware. I recently built my in-laws an entire computer out of nothing but parts I wasn't using. All they had to do was buy a used monitor.

I was just shopping around New Egg and see that memory has dropped to dirt cheap prices. I think I'm going to buy more, not because I need it, but just because it's cheap and I'll have the joy of computer parts coming in the mail. :-) I really am a geek.......

Chris
Melissa
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Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 2:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

After the kazillion dollars you spend on these things...I hate to throw them away. I still have a color printer I bought 8 years ago...it only works on my really old mac, but it was $600 new and as long as it prints, I'll use it for basic color text documents. Once the ink runs out, I guess I'll have to toss it...and the computer I keep to support the printer with an ADB connector! Until then, the old beast is stll running great!
Melissa
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Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 12:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just got an email that Logos Bible software is working on a mac version of it's stuff. Supposed to be out in June....

http://www.logos.com/mac/screenshots

Happy Mac-ing!

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