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Lisa_boyldavis
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Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 7:11 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My mom called and said she picked up a set of Bible and Living Sound for the kids for Christmas and wanted to know if we would let our kids listen to them. As a kid, I loved listening to all those Bible Stories, but as Iíve gotten into the Word Iíve realized how twisted they were. Has anyone run across a replacement for that set that gives correct theology other than the cartoonish Adventures in Odyssey (which we love by the way)? We thought about accepting them to teach our kids false doctrineÖ kind of a game. What is this story teaching you and now lets see what the Bible was really saying in this storyÖ Not sure it itís a good idea to do that since we also have a 2 year old who will not be able to discern the difference, but might get hooked into the big picture they paint that is not Biblical, that is, that Godís Law is the theme of the Bible, as opposed to Godís goodness, and our rescue by himself, Jesus Christ, and he being the answer to the law (The Good News). Any feedback?

Lisa
Chris
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Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 7:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lisa, we have the Bible in Living Sound as well. I LOVED these as a kid and listened to them over and over again. I had at one point begun playing them for my kids, but it started dawning on me that there is a lot of extra Biblical material that can only be found in Patriarchs and Prophets, Desire of Ages, etc. that fleshes out the story. In addition, the characters also provide commentary in their dialogue that tends to support SDA distinctives. It started seeming like a back-door way to teach my kids about Adventism so I had to retire them. I wish I could tell you I've found something equivalent, but I haven't I'll be interested to hear other responses.

Your situation is more difficult because Grandma is offering them as a gift. I understand this situation because my mother-in-law was wanting to get our kids subscriptions to Little Friend and Primary Treasure. She was pretty upset when we told her we couldn't accept them and kept on insisting that they were just good Christian magazines for kids. We had to point out that each lesson has an EGW reference listed after it. Not to mention the shear number of times "Sabbath" is promoted in each issue. Try counting the number of times the word "Sabbath" is used in an SDA publication sometime, then count the uses of the word "Jesus". Sigh...

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Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 8:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lisa,
Same story for me as well...I can even "hear" the voices of those stories and "feel" the warm, cozy atmosphere of laying by the fire on Friday night... Chris is right, you are in a sticky spot with your mom because it is a little "slam" to her that you would reject her gift BUT I see something else, too. She is asking you because you have been sharing your love for Jesus with her. I think that is much better than just ignoring your walk and giving your kids what she knows in your heart you would find difficult. I think this is a positive step.

Some friends gave us The Little House on the Praire set last year and we have had some of the best family times watching those together. It has given us many opportunities to discuss real life applications of living in the love of Jesus. It would be something painless for your mother to go out and buy and I would think the price may be comparable.

Let us know how is turns out.

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Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 12:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This brings back memories and a great sadness. I have been saving my set of ěThe Bible in Living Soundî for my own kids someday. I sure loved those tapes. I will have to listen to them again to see if itís worth the closet space.
I havenít had much reason to look for anything else, but when I was younger my parents purchased several sets of tapes from Moody Bible Inst. (I think). They were called ěYou Are Thereî and there were sets for Christmas, Easter, Paul, and even some OT. They are really good and though not the same as the BILS, definitely great dramatizations. Iíve been looking for them online this morning and canít seem to pin down a place to order them from. Maybe you canít get them anymore??
Ric_b
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Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 12:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris,
To go with your idea of counting the times "sabbath" appears compared to "Jesus" you might also want to count the number of sentences that are EGW and the number that are Scripture in the typical SDA book. I was bored one day and did that with one of Venden's books. The results surprised even me. There is no question where SDA emphasis is.
Lisa_boyldavis
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Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 2:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I brought this subject up with my husband, he really couldn't remember anything that would have been problematic able until I started rattling off lines in Esther... it's fine to use some liberty to create historical fiction, but when you add your own agenda to that fiction... Esther was made out to be remarkably Adventist... hated the beauty treatments, the perfume, wanted to be out in the fresh air and the sunshine, didn't want to have maids do her sewing but wanted to do it herself.... I know you can't do a dramatization on the REAL story because you'd have to cover the fact that she prostituted herself to obey the king, but in the end God used her anyway. But the treatment of Paul and the animals in the net, etc... was very Adventist. Do you think it would be a good teaching tool? I will try to track down the Moody dramatizations.

Lisa

P.S. DD, I emailed you recently looking for your number. I didn't know you were transitioning. I'd love to hear from you and talk again. Hope all is well
Bmorgan
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Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 8:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lisa, Max McLean is a good place to start. He reads the Bible in theatrical form and his voice is very dramatic. It's his ministry to bring the Bible to life. He has the whole Bilbe on CDs

In my opinion his supercedes the Bible in Living Sounds. You hear the actual Word of God in a lively refreshing way, which appeal even to children.

I think his company is called Performing Arts Fellowship. Actually, you may be able to purchase his CDs from CBD.

Our children grew up listening to the Bible in Living sounds, but we would do it differently if we had to do it over.

Lisa_boyldavis
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Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 1:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you for that tip Bmorgan

Lisa
Bmorgan
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Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 5:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lisa,

Here is another I think is very good. You can listen on the web also. Here is a description and link to the site.


http://www.worldsgreateststories.com/


Actor George W. Sarris brings to life in the mind's eye the characters and events of some of the most treasured stories in all of history.

The texts of all of the stories are taken directly, word for word, from the Bible. They are told, however, using the art of a dramatic storyteller, incorporating carefully chosen music and sound effects. The result is a very exciting story that comes straight from the words of Scripture.

The current audio series contains a total of 18 individual stories on five CDs or cassettes. The stories are recorded in both the King James Version and the New International Version. Each volume is approximately 1 hour long.

Using simply his voice, his memory, and the audience's imagination, he takes us back in time to view Biblical scenes such as the unbridled rage of King Nebuchadnezzar as he commands Shadrach, Meshech, and Abendnego to be cast into the blazing furnace, the sudden fear that overcomes his drunken descendant, Belshazzar, as he literally sees the handwriting on the wall, the repentant hearts of the citizens of Ninevah as they respond in humility to the preaching of Jonah, the angelic announcement of the birth of Jesus of Nazareth, Herod's desperate attempt to kill Him as a young child, His ministry of healing and teaching among the people, the sorrow of His death, and the triumph of His resurrection.

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