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Goldenbear
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Post Number: 125
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 5:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was perusing the paper in Bozeman Mt and came across this article. I used to work there and am troubled that a student was accepted that had declared their emancipation from their parents.

Here is the article.

http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/articles/2005/10/16/news/emancipation.txt

You would think that a Bible-believing group that is adamant about obeying the commandments would not accept a student that violated the commandment to honor your mother and father.

Granted I don't know the whole story, but am perplexed by it.
Insearchof
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Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 5:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How sad. I notice that the school principal tried to talk him out of it. They should have refused to accept him as a student rather than through their non-action support what he did.

Just my 2 cents...

InSearchOf
Jeremy
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Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 6:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow. You can just imagine what Dr. Laura would say to him--I can guarantee you, if she was the principal of that school he would not be there.

The article says that the mom blames the school officials for encouraging the decision, while the principal denies the school got involved. And it says that church members housed the boy during the summer.

It sounds like maybe he thought he had to "obey God" and attend that school rather than obey his mom. But it is such a twisted, cultic mentality.

I agree that the school should have rejected him. The whole thing seems so...cultic--I can't think of a better word to describe it.

Jeremy
Lynne
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Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 6:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is the Fifth Commandment, not the Fourth Commandment. Perhaps the church can't brainwash the kid if mom has him, in such a case, what good is the Fifth Commandment if the church can't use it?

Thou Shall Not Steal? If I steal money and give most of it to the SDA church am I okay? Sure, I guess if I can explain it correctly.

Judge Grants Permission for Student to Remain in Cult/School against wishes of mother? Who is this judge?

District Court Judge, Mike Salvagni

EIGHTEENTH JUDICIAL DISTRICT
Hon. Mike Salvagni
Law & Justice Ctr., Rm. 207
615 South 16th Ave.
Bozeman, MT 59715
Phone Number 406-582-2140



Lynne
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Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 6:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wonder if the kid was abused in some way. This judge has an award as being on the board to Prevent Child Abuse. Newspaper articles can sometimes be misleading or not correct. Perhaps there is more to the story.

http://preventchildabusebozeman.org/intpages/awards.html

http://www.montanameth.org/about_team_salvagni.aspx
Helovesme2
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Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 7:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with Lynne, that there is likely more to the story than the press has told (or perhaps knows). Whether this kid should have been emancipated or not I don't know, but I'm very glad that there is such a provision!

Looks like he and his family would make a good addition to our prayer list!

Mary
Flyinglady
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Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 8:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If that principal was a true believer of the ten commandments he should have refused to let the boy attend the school, since he was disobeying his parent. The church members he was staying with should have sent him home seeing as he was underage. Then again, there may be more to it than meets the eye.
All Adventists are on our prayer list, so this family is there, but now we know a name.
My 2 cents worth.
Diana
Randyg
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Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 9:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It sounds to me like a somewhat head strong young man who is striving for independence and adventure.

In the years of World War I or WW II many underaged men signed up against the wishes of their mothers, because they felt a calling, or felt the need to serve.

As a young man many years ago I felt some of that same wonderlust. Most young men do,even today.
Even now as I navigate through middle age, on occasion, I still get the urge to take the road less travelled, and maybe search for the man inside me or the man that could have been, or might still be. Most middle aged men do, even today.

I feel for the young man and I feel for the parent, because either could be me.

Lets not make it more than it is. Many young people emancipate from their parents all the time, usually however it is emotionally, or psychologically and not physically. Many do it through rebellion, or destructive behaviours.

FWIW.

Randy
Colleentinker
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Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 9:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree, Randy. I have a sense that we don't know the whole story. Of course, there is an undercurrent of "being persecuted" for one's choice to be Adventist in this story--but I'm also aware that it is often the vulnerable who get sucked into the Adventist cult(ure).

During my years teaching at Gem State Academy, I became aware that boarding academies were havens for many kids who desperately wanted to get out of their homes where the emotional, financial, or psychological/physical stressors were just too painful. The irony, of course, is that these vulnerable kids become ensconsed in an Adventist dormitoryówhich is anything but a healthful environment.

The details of this story seem incompleteóand it also seems profoundly sad to me. I suspect that poor kid has suffered a lot, and somehow it seems that he's gone from one potentially unhealthful situation into another that leaves a lot to be desired.

Colleen

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