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Russkellyphd
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Username: Russkellyphd

Post Number: 3
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 12:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am Russell Earl Kelly. Converted from Baptist to SDA in 1973. SDA from 1973-81. Graduated cum laude with B. A. from SMC in 1976. Associate pastor in Morganton and Summerville, Georgia while in college. Pastored 4 churches in North Dakota from 1976-1979. Pastored Myrtle Beach, SC from 1980-1981 before leaving the church in 1982.

From the beginning I was a follower of Desmond Ford and hoped for reform. I never taught the IJ message. Distributed The Shaking of Adventism to every pastor in ND. Left before it got too hot when I refused to preach a canned EGW sermon in SC.

I am Baptist again, althouth at great odds over the doctrine of tithing. PH. D. from Covington Theological Seminary in 2000 on tithing.

Author of two books, Should the Church Teach Tithing? and Exposing Seventh-day Adventism. I have also been legally blind since 1989.
www.shouldthechurchteachtithing.com
www.home.earthlink.net/~russkellyphd/sda
Randyg
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Post Number: 117
Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 2:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Russell,

I read through your material a couple of weeks ago when you first posted. I appreciate that you are willing to share your research and conclusions with us. It is a very sound piece of work, and definitely adds insight and perspective to a very misunderstood, and abused Biblical teaching.

Thank-you again,

Randy
Insearchof
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Post Number: 51
Registered: 8-2005
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 4:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Russell,

Good to 'meet' you! I hit your website several months ago and downloaded the online book on Tithing. I found it most informative (particularly since I had never considered that the concept as I knew it might not be Biblical).

Enjoy your stay!

InSearchOf
Melissa
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Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 5:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Like the others, I also got your book online. I really appreciated the personal email when I registered. Welcome to FAF. I was raised Baptist...southern style :-)
Russkellyphd
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Username: Russkellyphd

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Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 8:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Since this is the Former SDA group, I will send any or all of my SDA book to anybody from this group who requests it for free as a download. My chpater on the two different Three Angels' messages was fun to compile.
Lynne
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Post Number: 298
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 8:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Russell,

I read your testimony before getting your book on Exposing-Seventh-day Adventism. Your story is very good. It is interesting how you say you were tricked into joining. You accurately stated how they make themselves sound like other evangelical Christians and use the Sabbath as bait. This was used on me. And once you believe that, you are stuck in their studies, keeping the Sabbath, and you are then brainwashed.

I'm glad to hear that I wasn't the only one who didn't believe the IJ. But isn't that what the church is all about? Didn't they somehow get those ideas into us in other ways when we didn't accept it? And as I've heard many people say in this forum, I think it is just the devils doctrine.

I've only had the time to browse your book so far. I will follow through and read it as soon as I have the opportunity. I'm sure it will clear up some of the false teachings that I haven't yet unlearned. Your hard work is appreciated and will help this former adventist. Thank you!

Lynne





Flyinglady
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Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 8:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was not tricked into joining the SDA church. I was born into it and was brain washed from day 1. I attended SDA schools from 1st grade to graduation from LLU. But God did get ahold of me and more than 34 years ago He started gently pulling me away.
I do want to get your book when I return from the FAF reunion this weekend.
Thank you God for each person You have taken out of the SDA church and brought into your fellowship. As always, you are so awesome.
Diana
Lisa_boyldavis
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Post Number: 161
Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 8:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Russell,

I did look at your web site a while back. I'd love to read your book. It's unusual our pastor has a clear teaching on tithe ... itís a CM&A church. A rare thing... It's easier to demand 10% and guilt trip for that rather than teach that 100% of what we own belongs to God and that the Holy Spirit convicts each of us on what to give, which may be WAY BEYOND the 10% or much less depending. Welcome to the forum. You may not have huge emotional losses as you started out somewhere and went back to your roots, but to understand the teaching is valuable. What can be done to convince other evangelicals that the SDA church is cultic? Any ideas?

Lisa
Honestwitness
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Post Number: 31
Registered: 7-2005


Posted on Wednesday, February 15, 2006 - 8:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Russell, I plan to read your material one day soon, but right now I'm reading D. M. Canright's "Seventh-day Adventism Renounced" and Ratzlaff's "Sabbath in Crisis." What a dynanic duo!

Welcome to this wonderful cyber-family.

I'm curious to know how you can participate in a web forum if you're legally blind. I obviously have much to learn about the ways people overcome such challenges.
Esther
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Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 5:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Russell! I've visited your website also and really enjoyed reading your studies! Welcome to the forum!
Russkellyphd
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Username: Russkellyphd

Post Number: 6
Registered: 2-2006


Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 6:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I tried to post this the other day and failed.
First, I am "legally blind" which means corrected vision no betterthan 20/200 which allows me to red with magnification. I got my Th. M., Th. D. and Ph. D. after going blind. the disease is called cone dystrophy.

Second, I do not want to turn this into a tithing forum except where it involves SDAs who teach it becbause they see themselves as true Israel.

I'll see all of you on the other dicussions. May God bless you.

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