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| Belvalew Registered user Username: Belvalew Post Number: 990 Registered: 7-2004 |
This morning I was reading the topics at Spectrum, and one of them involves assisted suicide. My question has to do with when a loved one is dying, and everyone knows it. I've only three people to use as examples of what I'm talking about--my Grandmother, who passed away in 1965, my Dad, and my Mother. Nanny died after suffering a broken hip, but it took a while and she lapsed into a delerium prior to passing away. During that time she "talked" a great deal, but not with the living people around her bed. Instead, she was talking to her own mother and to a husband who had preceeded her in death. Both of my parents passed as a result of cancer, and they too had moments of delerium as well as clarity toward the end. My Dad I was not around at the last, but I'm told that he seemed to be speaking to his own mother on occasion. Dad passed away in 1981. My Mother died in 1989, and about a month before she passed away she fell into a state of delerium brought on by what the doctor called free-floating cancer cells in the blood stream and thus irritating her brain. Mom had colon cancer. My mother's ramblings were to her mother and to my Dad. In all three of these cases my family and I experienced Adventist believers at the end of their lives, and those people were all talking to people who were already dead. Have any of you ever experienced something of this sort? | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 2389 Registered: 3-2004  |
Belva, When my Mom died we had hospice come in to take care of her so she could be at home when she died, with her family around her. They told us that is is very common for the dying to talk to their loved ones, who have already died. The way I understand it, is that the dying see the person as they remember them, in their brain. They talk about things with which they were familiar. It is not Satan or one of his angels appearing to the person. When my Mom did this, my brother was in the room with her and there was no presence in the room with them, that my brother could detect. All this is happening in the brain. At least this is how I understand it. I was not there with my brother when this happened. Are there any hospice nurses out there that can clarify this??? Diana | ||
| Jwd Registered user Username: Jwd Post Number: 187 Registered: 4-2005  |
Ihave been on many a "death watch" and been beside many individuals at the moment of death. I have never personally observed such a thing. One cannot help but identify a certain fascination with questions regarding it. More and more I find myself retreating to the solid position of Deut. 29:29. Still human nature often cannot help but speculate and do our best to pry the steel door to God's Omniscience open just a crack. It's wasted time and energy. We are encouraged instead to fix the gaze upon Jesus, abide in Him, feed upon His WORD, especially the daily infusion of the Vitamin-packed Gospel of sovereign Grace; mixed with an unrestrainable gratitude to FATHER for calling us "according to His purpose. For those God foreknew He also predestined TO BECOME comformed to the likeness of His Son, ....And those He predestined, he also called; those He called, He also justified: those He justified, He also glorified." (Rom 8:28-30) (my emphasis) I have come to consider Romans 8 the greatest single chapter in the entire Word of God, and verses 28-39 the capstone of the believers assurance, and outline, step by step, of God's method of saving Grace. When it comes to the most - admittedly - fascinating and mysterious occurances with our natural curiosity and tendency to "know for sure what this all means" - (admitting I too have been told stories by my mother concerning my father who was killed ten days before I was born) - I still choose not to spend time trying to disect all the possibilities my mind offers up concerning such things; - particularly death - and instead keep the focus upon "that One Thing!" Jess | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 2391 Registered: 3-2004 |
Jess & Belva, What we were told by the nurses from hospice is that this happens some time before death, not at the time the person is dying. I forgot to say this in my first post. My brother happened to be in the room when this happened to our Mom. Diana | ||
| Belvalew Registered user Username: Belvalew Post Number: 992 Registered: 7-2004 |
Thank you both. I witnessed it with my Grandmother, and it went on for a day or two prior to her passing. With both of my parents, though I was not there, I am told that they came out of their delerium and were aware of the people who were with them during that period of clarity. Dad died alone, with a smile on his face. Mom fought the moment to its very last drop. Not a single one of the three was speaking to anyone "on the other side" at the moment of their passing. I'm only relaying an actual family experience. |
