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| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 2113 Registered: 3-2004  |
The SDAs have a new prophet??? Have any of you heard of this man? I just came across it while lurking on the R/S website. I am so glad that Jesus took me out of that. I will continue to pray for all SDAs. It appears that all kinds of prophets are popping up. So much was written about this man that I thought each of you that wants to can go there and read it for your self. Let us continue to pray for all SDAs. <http://www.revivalsermons.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=848> Who is Benny Hinn?? Our God is so awesome. Diana | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 3083 Registered: 12-2003  |
I first heard of Eoin Giller about 8 or 9 years ago from an Adventist Today colleague who admired him greately. I understand that he has a "healing ministry" and is quite charismatic. Benny Hinn is on TBN and does healing services. Colleen | ||
| Riverfonz Registered user Username: Riverfonz Post Number: 1104 Registered: 3-2005 |
Diana, Benny Hinn is a FALSE PROPHET!!! Someone did a fact sheet documenting how many false prophecies he has given, it is unbelievable. He looks like some slick used car salesman. He has claimed that Jesus would physically come to earth and walk with him while he was in some foreign country. He has said that there are nine persons in the godhead. TBN is also known as Heresy Broadcasting Network. Stan | ||
| Vchowdhury1 Registered user Username: Vchowdhury1 Post Number: 138 Registered: 7-2004 |
The television news program "Prime Time Live" also did an expose' on Benny Hinn some time ago. His prophecy's are false, and the people that he supposidly "healed" are "planted" in the audience. He wears a virtually invisible microphone behind his ear, and his people "feed" him information about the attendee's of his "healing" revival services from the prayer requests filled out on cards making him seem "Psychic" or "Holy Ghost" filled. Of course TBN defended him vigorously, and slamed NBC as "demons". | ||
| Riverfonz Registered user Username: Riverfonz Post Number: 1106 Registered: 3-2005 |
And Benny Hinn has a ten million dollar home, and pays his son's girlfriend one thousand dollars per hour to babysit while Benny is at his public services practicing his art of deception. Then TBN defends this guy, but that is not surprising, as they give a forum for all the "kook" ministries out there, and TBN is also one of the most financially corrupt ministries that there are. On a recent telethon to raise their "ill-gotten" gain that they steal from poor people, because people like Benny Hinn and Joyce Meyer get on there and promise people all these great financial blessings if they have enough faith and really sacrifice to donate to line their coffers. Talk about the moneychangers in the temple! What is it going to be like for these people when Jesus returns? He might use more than a whip to overturn their tables this time. Stan | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 2115 Registered: 3-2004 |
If you read the post on R/S that I posted, Giller's grandchild was healed by Hinn and he has had other association with Hinn which I do not remember at this time. So, since that is the case I will leave Hinn and Giller to God. He will take care of them in His time and I do not have to worry about either of them. Thanks for your information. From my understanding of reading about Giller, he has been put out of the adventist ministry. God is still in charge and that is all that matters to me. Diana | ||
| Pheeki Registered user Username: Pheeki Post Number: 717 Registered: 1-2003 |
Benny Hinn is not for real in my opinion. I saw him once on tv, he was in Jerusalem...they keep this kind of "glowing" filter on him and he wears white to make him look angelic. He also talks really sticky sweet, and gentle, kind of like George Vandeman did (no disrespect to George...but it adds to the "trust me" affect)...he wears lots of gold jewelry...to me that is stop sign #1. I have nothing against jewelry (and wear it myself) but a man of God is not usually decked out like the Pope. He reeks of riches and profit. He has definatly profited from preaching. I won't listen to anyone who has grown fat and rich selling the word of God...that includes the GC and Ellen White. | ||
| Riverfonz Registered user Username: Riverfonz Post Number: 1110 Registered: 3-2005 |
Diana, I have had time now to read the entire post on Giller on the R/S web site. My advice would to pay no attention to either Giller or Benny Hinn. As we approach the end of time, lying wonders will increase. Even if Giller's granddaughter was healed at a Benny Hinn rally, that does not in any way validate that Hinn's ministry is of God. We know from the evidences in the above posts, that Hinn's theology is totally false. He even believes along with many other word-faith teachers that after Jesus died on the cross, then He had to go literally to hell to be torured and then become born again in hell. This is a false gospel. Jesus warns that in the last days, there will come many false prophets, they will be wolves in sheep's clothing. We will know them by their fruits. Benny Hinn is clearly in this category, and if Giller thinks Hinn is a true prophet of God, then he is woefully deceived as well. Giller made one very telling comment, and that is his belief (along with the rest of the word-faith movement) that there is physical healing in the atonement. There is no scriptural basis for this belief. After SDAs have been so deceived by Ellen White in the past, then it is very important not to be fooled again by many other false prophets who have gone out into the world. Stan | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 3089 Registered: 12-2003 |
I believe that if anyone receives healing, he can praise God for it. Even people with false motives can preach Christ (Phil. 1:17-18). That being said, I have enough reason to suspect Benny Hinn of fraud that I do not trust him. I do agree with Stan that it's important for us to "test the spirits" and not become enmeshed with false teachers or prophets. Praise God that He protects our hearts and minds in Christ Jesus! Colleen | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 2118 Registered: 3-2004 |
I did not believe Giller or Hinn when I read about Giller. I just wanted confirmation that what I was thinking was correct. Thanks Colleen and Stan. Diana | ||
| Anotherseeker Registered user Username: Anotherseeker Post Number: 22 Registered: 8-2005 |
Hello Everyone! I have always had a niggly feeling about Benny Hinn. I will read the article after i post this. River Fonz can you direct me to the evidence of Hinn believing that Jesus was tortured in Hell and was born again down there please? I dont know about US...but certainly over here the more liberal Adventists accept Joyce Meyer, are you suggesting that she is also on the money wagon? What about T.D Jakes, Juanita Bynum, Eddie Long, Jacqueline McCullough and Paula White's ministries? I have been subject to their ministries especially when i first started going to church as my friends at SDA are not really SDA they just believe in Christ but they go to church there. My friend gave me some recordings of these people off TBN. Does anyone know or have any opinion on any of these ministers please. THANKYOU | ||
| Riverfonz Registered user Username: Riverfonz Post Number: 1124 Registered: 3-2005 |
Anotherseeker, I will try to find the documentation on Hinn, but I will be very busy today, and this whole week. You can go to www.equip.org which is Hank Hanegraf's site which will help. I know for sure that Joyce Meyer taught this born again Jesus doctrine of the atonement. We had a discussion last March 05, with a lot of documentation, where she even said it was necessary to believe that Jesus went to hell and was born again. It is possible that she ande Benny Hinn have repudiated these doctrines, and maybe someone can come up with the evidence they have changed. T.D, Jakes is well documented to teach the heresy of Modalism, which denies the fundamental doctrine of the Trinity, and is cultic. But even though he believes this doctrine, he seems to be accepted by many evangelicals. Stan | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 3103 Registered: 12-2003 |
I don't have any personal experience with these speakers, Anotherseeker, but I do want to make one recommendation: stay immersed in the Bible. Ask God to direct your reading and to teach you with His Spirit. Ask Him to protect you from deception and to gound you deeply in truth and reality. While I haven't spent much time listening to the teachers you mentioned, I do know that some of them, at least, teach unbiblical practices and doctrines. If you aren't personally grounded in the word and don't consider Scripture to be your source of truth and authority, you can easily be deceived by teachings that sound good but are twisted slightly. (Just think how good, how close to the real thing Adventism sounds!) Our defense against false teachers is to consider the Bible to be our authority, not various teachers. God is faithful to teach us through His word when we ask Him to and when we submit our hearts and minds to Him. Colleen | ||
| Riverfonz Registered user Username: Riverfonz Post Number: 1125 Registered: 3-2005 |
Anotherseeker, since you asked for more info on Joyce Meyer and Benny Hinn, here are a few links. On Joyce Meyer Christian Research Institute has this info www.equip.org/free/DM472.htm and another helpful critique of the "born-again Jesus" atonement theory that many Word-Faith teachers believe, where they say that Jesus had to take on the nature of SATAN and go to hell to be born again! Wow! Here is the link for this critique at www.equip.org/free/DP078.htm. And here is a whole bunch of info proving that Benny Hinn has been blatantly dishonest with many false prophecies at this link www.deceptioninthechurch.com/bhinn.html I would just like to second Colleen's comments above about just going to the Bible initially, and hear what God will teach you through the leading of the Holy Spirit. I would however like to make positive recommendations for trustworthy Bible teaching as people transition out of Adventism. There are great radio Bible teaching ministries that I think we can all agree are solid and thoroughly Biblically based. I will name some, and others can either agree or disagree and suggest some of their own, But for radio ministries we have J. Vernon McGee of Through the Bible, also Chuck Swindoll "Insight for Living", John MacArthur "Grace to You" at www.gty.org, and Alistair Begg of "Truth for Life" at www.truthforlife.org, and R.C. Sproul of "Renewing your Mind". These are just a few truly inspiring radio teachers that are trustworthy. Christian TV has rare exceptions like D.James Kennedy that are good, but most of Christian TV is suspect, and I am sure there are exceptions to the rules. Stan | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 3106 Registered: 12-2003 |
Yes, Stan--I agree with you re: the teachers you mentioned. They do teach the Bible honestly. Good Bible teaching really is one of God's methods for "forming" us in Him, Anotherseeker--but we can't substitute listening to teachers for studying the Bible ourselves. The Bible is our source of truth and reality when we are submitted to Jesus. Many times I've had the experience of studying some difficult doctrinal idea in the Bible and then, by "chance", hearing a preacher on the radio when I was driving preach about the exact thing I'd been studying and praying over. So often I've been aware that God was confirming what I'd been learning in the Bible, and He used a radio sermon to reinforce the insights I'd been having as I studied. You named some excellent teachers, Stan. Thanks. Colleen | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 2127 Registered: 3-2004 |
And for those of you who, like me are so tired at the end of the day, just ask God to send the Holy Spirit to teach you. That is what I have been doing since I left Adventism, almost two years ago. For me, I read the Bible and what I have read is confirmed by what I hear in church or here. Diana | ||
| Riverfonz Registered user Username: Riverfonz Post Number: 1133 Registered: 3-2005 |
Here is another Benny Hinn update. As the saying goes, "Read it and weep". The point this article makes so well is that if Benny Hinn really had the true gift of healing, he would be going to the hospitals and healing people instead of calling attention to himself at these huge crusades where he can flash his expensive suits and expensive jewelry. Hinn is about to go to the Fiji islands and hold this large healing service expecting about 300,000 people. Wow, this is really frightening how this guy can deceive so many people. Here is the link www.christianresearchservice.com/CRSFijiChallenge.htm Stan | ||
| Prinsen Registered user Username: Prinsen Post Number: 9 Registered: 5-2005 |
Benny Hinn was in Sweden about a year ago and there was a hot disscussion/debate in the Christian newspaper about whether he truly had the gift of healing or not. His meetings had tens of thousands in attendence. At the end of the debate a well know pastor wrote a debate article urging anyone who was healed at any of those meetings to step forward within a month with a doctor confirming that he/she was healed from their illness. Nobody stept forward in that month out of hundreds of alleged healings. I guess that pastor proved his point.... /Martin | ||
| Riverfonz Registered user Username: Riverfonz Post Number: 1135 Registered: 3-2005 |
That's right Martin. Just more evidence that Hinn is a fraud. And to think he gets rich perpetrating this fraud. In all my 30 year career as a physician, I have never been able to verify any healings that ever took place at any so-called miracle service. The healing I have seen is when God sovereignly chooses to heal someone according to His own good pleasure. Stan | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 3118 Registered: 12-2003 |
Good point, Stan. I believe that Jesus' healings, the apostles' healings, and any healings done by people with the true gift of healing are indivisible from spiritual healing as well. Jesus' healings, for example, accompanied commands such as, "Your faith has made you whole," "Go and sin no more," etc. The point of healing the "mortal tent" is about spiritual wholeness. This body is limited and ultimately destined to die; God can heal and preserve it to build faith, to bring us to Him, to become a witness to His glory and power, etc. I don't believe healing is ever about simple physical relief. It's always about bringing glory to Jesus and to the mercy, grace, and sovereign tranforming power of God. It's just not ever about the person mediating the healing--or even primarily about the person being healed. God works miracles for "the praise of His glorious grace"óto borrow a phrase from Ephesians 1. We do serve an amazing God! Colleen |
