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Grace_alone
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Username: Grace_alone
Post Number: 234
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 8:44 pm: |     |
Melissa, I didn't have a life size poster of Donny, but I did have the little picture I cut out on the back of my Donny Osmond Mattel doll!
The Partrige Family was a great show. Having older sisters I also watched and listened to a lot of the Monkees.
Hey, we're young! I'm STILL in my 30's. (okay, for 6 more months...)
Denise, I remember Evie. I wonder what ever happened to her? I'll have to Google her.
Is there a " don't clap" verse in the EGW writings? My in-laws really get angry about clapping in church.
 Leigh Anne
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Randyg
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Username: Randyg
Post Number: 281
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 10:31 pm: | |
...any Donnie and Marie fans?
It was a joke already!
Thanks for the fun ladies.
I grew up listening to the Imperials(my favorites), and the Oak Ridge Boys way back when they were Gospel.
It sure was more fun than Del Delker with Brad Braley on the organ.
For you Portland folks, do you remember the uproar over the Heritage Singers? Talk about creating a stir.
And do you remember their precursor the Rose City Singers?
I have often thought of Max Mace as the Adventist Bill Gaither.
Again my apologies for leading this discussion waaaayyyyy off topic.
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Grace_alone
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Username: Grace_alone
Post Number: 235
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 6:25 am: | |
Randy, you should know better than to wag Donny and Marie in front of a 40 year old lady...
It's nice to lighten up things around here sometimes. Through most of the seriousness, this really is a fun bunch!
Leigh Anne |
Mrsbrian3
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Username: Mrsbrian3
Post Number: 62
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 7:38 am: | |
Now come on ya'll. You know "sunshine" was just a metafor for drugs. John was singing about getting high!
Bless her heart. I know my mom meant well ... |
Loneviking
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Username: Loneviking
Post Number: 470
Registered: 7-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 8:46 am: | |
'Friends around the campfire, and everybody high, high, high!'.....
Hmmm, reminds me of a backpacking trip or two...
But, hey 'Thank God, I'm a country boy'---and Riverfonz, being from Tulare can vouch for that!
Donny and Marie? The Carpenters? Oh gag me!!
My tastes ran more to the Grateful Dead, CCR, Skynrd, Led Zep, and Aerosmith.
Except for the stuff coming out of the Jesus Freaks movement there wasn't much interesting until the end of the 70's. That's when Evie, 2nd Chapter of Acts, Keith Green, Don Francisco all came on the scene.
Bill |
Randyg
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Username: Randyg
Post Number: 283
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 10:08 am: | |
Bill, good to hear from you again,
Yes my musical taste even as a teenager was stranger than most. My buddy Kenny and I had seasons tickets to the Vancouver Symphony Pops series for a few years. I did get to see and hear Dizzy Gillespie with them in 1975.
I didn't even discover the Beatles until the early 90s. If you don't have the Canadian Brass "All You Need Is Love" CD, their Beatles tribute, its the best CD they have done with absolutely amazing arrangements and wonderful pic work.
I did get to hear Jon Faddis lead the Dizzy Gillespie Allstar band 3 years ago. I was blown away at his amazing gift, power, and range. Again only a fellow trumpet player can appreciate his uniqueness.
I was never into the heavy rock scene, but prefered Bach(any of it) or Jazz. What other kid in the 70s, record collection included Vigil Fox and E.Power Beggs playing Bach on the Organ, and every Doc Severinson record he could find.
Up here in Canada we are still mourning the passing of Maynard a few weeks back.
Eclectically,
Randy |
Loneviking
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Username: Loneviking
Post Number: 471
Registered: 7-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 10:57 am: | |
Yes, Randy, it was a sad day when Maynard passed away. I like a few of his numbers, but Doc was more my style. I also liked Herb Alpert (who can forget the Whipped Cream albumn cover?!!), and the great Harry James.
Did you ever get to hear or play with Buck Scheaffer and His Fabulous Studio Band? They were really good and very popular in the southern San Joaquin Valley area.
Have you been over to the Canadian Brass website? I go over there every so often to just listen to Jens Lindemann play his version of 'Amazing Grace'.
Yeah, we trumpet players are a bit eclectic. I've heard a woodwind player opine that it's all the back pressure from years of playing trumpet! That's O.K.---I've sent the reedsuckers home with headaches on several occasions! }} |
Riverfonz
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Username: Riverfonz
Post Number: 2142
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 1:46 pm: | |
Loneviking and everyone--Wow, thanks for all the memories. I can't believe Bill that you are familiar with Buck Scheaffer, as he put Porterville on the map when I was going to Sierra View Junior Academy. That was one of the more respected bands for high schools in the country. At that time we had a band leader named Dick Coates at SVJA, even though he was not SDA, they still allowed him to lead our band, and he was also a hot musician in that area. Bill, did you go to SVJA, as you seemed to be familiar with Floyd Denney?
Also, as a trumpet player I have heard some of the best starting with a guy named Mendez back in the 60's. But the best trumpet concert ever was the time we heard Doc Severinsen conduct the Pacific Symphony Orchestra and chorale, as well as play his many assorted trumpets at the same time in a most wonderful Christmas concert back in 2003. It was especially moving to watch him conduct the playing of the Hallelujah chorus, as that was certainly a different role than when we saw him for years along with Johnny Carson on the Tonight show.
I loved all kinds of music from classical to country to jazz, and I was a "deadhead" as at PUC, we went to many concerts at Winterland and the old Filmore West. I paid seven dollars to hear the Rolling Stones at Winterland, and stood on the front row back in 1972 for their "Brown sugar tour--that was when they had the horns along with them. It is so much fun to remember those "good old days". Oh yes, I loved Herb Alpert also. Where has all the good music gone?
Stan |
Loneviking
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Username: Loneviking
Post Number: 472
Registered: 7-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 3:48 pm: | |
Yes, I went to SVJA from 5th to 10th grade. I'm drawing a blank on who the band teacher was for the last two or three years, but he was very good. The band was involved in all sorts of competitions, including going up against Buck Scheaffers' band.
Ah yes, the Dead. Heard 'em in the little town of Felton, above Santa Cruz in the summer of 1977. What a hoot!
BTW--that guy named Mendez, was Rafeal Mendez. An amazing trumpet player and you can still pick up CD's of his music. The great music hasn't disappeared, it's just gotten a bit more specialized and harder to find.
Have you heard of the Big Phat Band? Great swing arrangements by an 18 piece band with Wayne Bergeron on lead trumpet. Trent Austin, if you like jazz, out of New Jersy. Also Nick Drozdoff out of Chicago---both of these guys have CD's over on cdbaby.com. If you like classical, you should check out a lovely British trumpeter named Alison Balsam and her new cd 'Caprice'. Her website is:
www.alisonbalsam.com
You need to come hang over at www.trumpetmaster.com and
www.trumpetherald.com and see what you're missing!
Or, tune your internet to:
www.jazzplayerradio.com
or
www.accuradio.com and the classical, trumpet solosists channel.
Bill |
Violet
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Username: Violet
Post Number: 488
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 3:58 pm: | |
Hey guys, I have been out for a while--started a new job and have been exhausted.
I think the text that White may be remotely referring to is Ezekiel 28:13. When I read the whole chapter I am getting that God is speaking to Satan telling him how he was created in such splendor and he gave it all up because of his vanity. It does refer to "pipes" in the plural. Almost like he could of had mutiple ways of passing air through to create different sounds at the same time.
Read it and let me know what you think.
V
PS I still listen to the Carpenter and Donny. Does anyone remember Tony Defranco? |
Colleentinker
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Username: Colleentinker
Post Number: 4770
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 5:45 pm: | |
Randyóuh...I also had E Power Biggs, Canadian Brass, Vivaldi flute sonatas, Mendelsshon, etc. in the 70's. I did have one or two Carpenters records, tooóbut they were in the minority, for sure!
And yes, I remember the Rose City Singers...they did a concert at PUA when I was there. (Forgive me, but I never cared for the Heritage Singers...)
Colleen |
Jeremy
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Username: Jeremy
Post Number: 1546
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 7:03 pm: | |
Violet, yes, in Ezekiel 28:13 in the KJV there is a mention of: "the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes" (or in the NKJV: "The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes"). However, in the other versions those words are translated completely differently. For example, the NASB says, "the workmanship of your settings and sockets," the NIV says, "Your settings and mountings were made of gold," and the NLT says, "all beautifully crafted for you
and set in the finest gold." These renderings seem to fit the context better--but it seems the meaning of the original Hebrew is a bit uncertain.
However, even if it does have to do with music, it sounds like it is talking about instruments rather than voice. The Jamieson, Fausset & Brown commentary says:
quote:tabrets--tambourines.
pipes--literally, "holes" in musical pipes or flutes.
--http://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/jfb/Eze/Eze028.html
Also, it is important to note that angels do not have bodies--contrary to EGW's claims! In any case, there is no hint that Satan was the choir leader or that he could sing all four parts of a song. That's just more of Ellen's numerous exaltations of Satan in her writings.
The Bible actually never tells us that angels even sing! (See http://www.gotquestions.org/angels-sing.html)
Jeremy |
Lisa_boyldavis
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Username: Lisa_boyldavis
Post Number: 237
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 8:45 pm: | |
Thank you for addressing the text in Ezk. About music, I sang Evie songs forever, loved Chicago, Barry Manalow, Eric Estrada (Oops, he wasn't a musician, just a CHIP's Cop, then Steve Green, Sandi Patti, Amy Grant.... Barbara Streisand.
I was shocked when you noted that Satan being the choir director was not in the Bible as I always felt that music boarded on evil just because it's what turned the Devil toward himself. I loved music and to think I could dump God if I loved it too much is pathetic!! I love learning the truth piece by piece. Thank you for the pieces you all are adding to my healing.
Lisa
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Jeremy
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Username: Jeremy
Post Number: 1547
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, October 12, 2006 - 9:50 pm: | |
Here's a quote I found on blueletterbible.org from Pastor Chuck Smith, that is very good:
quote:And there are some who say that Satan is the author of music because of "the workmanship of your tabrets and of your pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created." And so that Satan is the author of music. I think that that is just stretching the point beyond breaking. I can't stand that type of biblical exposition that takes a verse like this and then builds an entire case from it. And how that music is evil because Satan was the originator of music because he was the one with the tabrets and pipes and so forth. And so that music is satanic in its origin and all and that he is the master over music. That's stretching scripture; it's taking it out of context. It is taking one verse and just blowing it beyond its intent and beyond what it declares. And yet, there are those foolish and ignorant men who will take some kind of a passage like this and try to make a big discourse out of it and a big theory and come down on all kinds of musical instruments and everything else. Of course, some book has been written lately against rock music and saying it's of Satan and this is the scripture that proves it. If they can find proof of that in this scripture then they have done phenomenal bit of scriptural jugglery.
--http://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/chuck_smith_c2000/Eze/Eze026.html
God is the author of music, not Satan!
Jeremy |
Mwh
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Username: Mwh
Post Number: 190
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 6:41 am: | |
Jeremy, your link about the bible not telling us that angels sings, its a bit 50/50 from the article you are pointing to. Like we can't be sure if they sang or dit not sing. Actually it skews a bit towards that they did sing. (Like the worshipping context).
I am sure that God invented music
How about the angels and the body thing, like I guess when an angel is on earth it has a body, but in heaven it doesn't. |
Colleentinker
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Username: Colleentinker
Post Number: 4775
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 1:52 pm: | |
The fact that so many people have true musical talent confirms to me that God is the author of music. I never thought of Satan as the originator of it, but I did believe that he created evil musical counterparts or deceptions.
Actually, that's still how I understand his involvement in music. All deception comes from him, and it "works" because it so closely mimics the real thing.
Colleen |
Riverfonz
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Username: Riverfonz
Post Number: 2146
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 13, 2006 - 2:07 pm: | |
Loneviking,
Bill, I would love to know your identity. Please email me at riverfonz@aol.com We may have known each other at one time at SVJA, or known our families. We may have played in the band together. The band leaders I had there were Dick Coates and Al Seyle.
Stan |
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