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| Mwh Registered user Username: Mwh Post Number: 360 Registered: 4-2006  |
Hello everybody I was reading one of my favorite blogs and wanted to share with you guys this post: http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2006/11/29/does-god-have-one-unique-law-part-one/ I believe strongly that the teaching that women can't teach men, isn't biblical. I tend to think of this doctrine as of the doctrine of tithing. Tithing goes from very strict, everybody has to pay 10% to moderate to very light, the poor is excluded, students etc. Women in Ministry, from very strict, women can't teach men, including boys, can't run web forums, can't have any form of leadership over males to moderated to very low, yes women can teach informal bible sessions etc. Jesus thank you, thank you so much for saving me, I long for you! | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 180 Registered: 9-2006  |
The only reason a woman can't teach a man is if he refuses to listen. On college tithing, 10% of 0 is 0+90% poverty sprinkled with 10% prayer that your pel grant will pay at least part of your books and that they don't move the McDonald's too far for you to eat a quarter pounder and get back to class in an hour. | ||
| Mwh Registered user Username: Mwh Post Number: 392 Registered: 4-2006 |
Part two of the blog item is up now: http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2006/12/07/does-god-have-one-unique-law-part-two/ In Jesus | ||
| Mwh Registered user Username: Mwh Post Number: 396 Registered: 4-2006 |
And here comes part three, the final part: http://strivetoenter.com/wim/2006/12/09/does-god-have-one-unique-law-part-three/ I seem to remember that Colleen was talking about a misuse of when Paul says, "... but I say ...". What was that about? In Christ | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 5082 Registered: 12-2003  |
I don't remember, Mwhóit may not have been me who addressed that "but I say..." point. At least I don't remember it! Very interesting blogs. I've been slowly reading an extremely good book called "Men and Women In the Church" by Sarah Sumner. The forward is written by Phillip Johnson, an associate pastor at John MacArthur's church. Sarah is chair of the dept of ministry at Azusa Pacific University, and this book is the most careful, detailed, Scripture-honoring discussion of the issue of women and ministry that I have seen. Sarah is committed to a literal, innerrant view of Scripture, and she is extremely careful with the text. She has been a student of Wayne Grudem, and she quotes him quite a bit. Yet her assessment of the 2 Timothy passage is similar to the point of view expressed in the blog above. I highly recommend the bookóshe approached the issue from a point of view of believing she should not be in ministry, and as she prayed and agonized over the text, her conclusions changed. She also does the best study of the concept of "headship" that I've seen. She is deeply committed to living under the headship of her husband and of Christ as the head of the church. Phillip Johnson says, near the end of his introduction, "Not everyone will agree with all of Dr. Sumner's answers, but I think it more important that impartial readers will agree that she raises the right questions. I remember a distinguished scholar who, informed that I was supporting Sarah's project, assumed that it must be primarily about which church offices should be open to women. that is precisely the wrong questions to start with, akin to the wrangling for position that characterized the disciples at their worst. Sarah starts with a much better question. How should men and women regard and treat each other if they are both truly faithful to the gospel of Christ and value truth more than personal power?" It's a thought-provoking and interesting book. Colleen |
