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Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady
  Post Number: 3115 Registered: 3-2004
 
  
  | | Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 6:39 pm:    |         |  
  I am starting early to wish all of you a Blessed Christ filled Christmas.  For Christmas this year I would like everyone to have God's peace in their soul and life and to know that Jesus is your salvation.    Have a Very Merry Christmas and may the New Year find you closer to Jesus.  Thank you God for all the folks who post here and those who lurk.  May each of them know Jesus and find that He is all each of us needs.  You are so AWESOME.  Diana |  
Mwh Registered user Username: Mwh
  Post Number: 375 Registered: 4-2006
 
  
  | | Posted on Monday, December 04, 2006 - 3:33 am:    |         |  
 
   thanks Diana!    I wish you all a very Merry Christmas as well, may the Spirit of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, lead and guide each of your steps, may your mind be the mind of Christ. Amen.    I want to join the chorus, yes God you are indeed AWESOME!    In Christ |  
Dd Registered user Username: Dd
  Post Number: 769 Registered: 7-2004
  | | Posted on Monday, December 04, 2006 - 5:20 am:    |         |  
  If any of you have the chance to see "The Nativity Story" in the next few weeks, I highly recommend it.  My daughter and I saw it this weekend and we both loved it.  It takes the fairy tale part of the story of Jesus' birth and puts it right into the reality of the day.    I was not the only one moved to tears as I heard many sniffles.  The theater was absolutely silent for several minutes after the movie was over.  I wanted to shout, "WE HAVE A SAVIOR!"    What a remarkable reality to hold onto.      May you all experience His reality during this special season and all year long.      Denise |  
Susans Registered user Username: Susans
  Post Number: 231 Registered: 8-2006
  | | Posted on Monday, December 04, 2006 - 6:04 am:    |         |  
  Denise,     I wanted to see this film, but did not get a chance over the weekend.  I will definitely make time to go, then.  It looked as thought it might be faithful to the biblical account.    May we all remember the reason for this Christmas season, that God became incarnate in order to save all those who receive Him and believe on His name.    Thank you Jesus, for loving us enough to become a man and to live, and die, for us.    Susan |  
Riverfonz Registered user Username: Riverfonz
  Post Number: 2380 Registered: 3-2005
  | | Posted on Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 8:58 pm:    |         |  
  Here is one of the most inspiring newer Christmas songs I have ever heard, and this one is recorded by Selah, and it is called "The Rose of Bethlehem":    "A child was born on Christmas day   Born to save the world   But long before the world began   He knew His death was sure   The pain and strife secured"     Mystery, how He came   to be a man   But greater still   How His death was in His plan   God predestined that His   Son would die   And He still created man   Oh, what love is this   That His death was in His hands.     The Christmas trees   They glow so bright   With presents all around   But Christmas brought   A tree of life   With blood that sacrificed   The greatest gift in life.     Mystery, how He came   to be a man   But greater still   How His death was in His plan   God predestined that His   Son would die   And He still created man   Oh, what love is this   That His death was in His hands.     I am just a man and   Can't begin to comprehend   When You look into this traitor's eyes   what do You see that   justifies the Lamb.     God predestined that His   Son would die   And He still created man   Oh, what love is this   That His death was in His plan   Mystery, mystery.     A blessed Christmas season to all!     Stan  
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Mwh Registered user Username: Mwh
  Post Number: 408 Registered: 4-2006
 
  
  | | Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 5:54 am:    |         |  
  Thanks for the song Stan, it is going around the world!    Jesus you are so awesome, I love you! |  
River Registered user Username: River
  Post Number: 251 Registered: 9-2006
 
  
  | | Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 1:58 pm:    |         |  
  On Christmas Eve 1914 as the war raged on in what became known as trench warfare British and Germans alike laid aside their weapons and held a small unauthorized truce that lasted through Christmas day of that year, men met between the trenches and exchanged bits of food and so forth.  In 1861 it is recorded that soldiers faced each other over dirt and log berms and as darkness came on it would be a waste of ammo to shoot so as the solders with the blue and the grey faced off it is said that one evening a southerner yelled over to the Yankee side ìHey yank ye got any baccy?î and that started a little unauthorized fraternization with the enemy as they traded in between the bunkers and berms.    This Christmas I would like to spend some time praying for the soldiers of our nation. I pray that men would lay aside war and animosity toward one another. I pray for the peace of Israel. I pray for my friends on the forum.  Merry Christmas.  River  
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Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady
  Post Number: 3173 Registered: 3-2004
 
  
  | | Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 2:34 pm:    |         |  
  River,  I have read various stories of Christmas during the various wars.  Like you I pray for our military where ever they are.  I have a special reason.  My son is active duty Air Force at this time.  So, I too, pray for peace and putting war aside and peace for all nations.  This is in addition to the prayers I have for all those on the forum and on our prayer list.  Again, I pray all of you have a God filled Merry Christmas.  Diana |  
Agapetos Registered user Username: Agapetos
  Post Number: 650 Registered: 10-2002
 
  
  | | Posted on Sunday, December 17, 2006 - 1:46 am:    |         |  
  Thanks, everyone, for everything said here.  You all are awesome and your hearts are pictures of God to me.       River, I read a book called "Silent Night" about the 1914 Christmas truce.  It was an astounding occurance.  They started Christmas eve, and it continued in many places all the way through Christmas and Boxing Day as well.  The better part of Christmas day, however, was spent burying the dead who had been lying in "no-man's land" between the trenches for so long.    Probably the thing that shocked me the most was how the war was "re-started" after the truce.  Many soldiers on both sides had a hard time shooting at the people they had just talked to, posed in pictures with, traded cigars and beer with, etc.  Many commanders had to force them to start killing one another.  Some soldiers were threatned with corporal punishment because they protested, "They're good people!" about their "enemies".  Maybe the main reason that the war was able to re-start was that fresh units were brought from further behind the lines -- people who had not experienced the "fraternization", and who would still have the war posters & propaganda in their minds, instead of a fresh up-close look at the people they had drank with the day before.    It's such an awesome, tragic, and yet challenging event.  It is awesome the way the horror stopped, the way bonds quickly formed, in short, the way that the mere memory of Christ's birth inspired people to look at one another as humans instead of in-human foes that must be defeated.  And it is tragic because it was "necessary" to continue the war, because the whole business truly couldn't be settled over a game of poker.  It was tragic that people in positions of power were angry about the truce, that they prevented it from re-occurring in 1915 and ever after, that they later tried to stop the publication of the event for fear it would damage the "war effort" at home.  It's tragic and it is sick.      And last of all, the 1914 truce is challenging, a direct statement, a call from God in history to us today, telling us to look at people as people, to get up out of our trenches and make peace with one another, to not let ourselves be manipulated by higher authorities, to truly see each other as Christ saw each of us, not only crossing "no-man's land" to come to earth, but even becoming one of us and dying for us, so that we may "fraternize" with Him and Father and all the hosts of holy heaven.  I'm challenged by it, and I'm moved.    Bless you all, and peace to you this season.  Ramone |  
Mwh Registered user Username: Mwh
  Post Number: 413 Registered: 4-2006
 
  
  | | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 11:09 am:    |         |  
  I have a song about that truce on one of my Christmas albums .. nice to get to hear your thoughts on the issue.    Jesus you are wonderful! |  
Mwh Registered user Username: Mwh
  Post Number: 414 Registered: 4-2006
 
  
  | | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 11:12 am:    |         |  
  Stan, I got to responses on the song you posted, both from to former adventists, they did not like it, you see they have been talking a lot with Jehovas Witnesses and do not like Christmas, they argue that it has taken with other holidays the place of the sabbath ... Oh my.    Have any of you guys heard that argument, spin in favor of keeping the Sabbath? |  
Riverfonz Registered user Username: Riverfonz
  Post Number: 2408 Registered: 3-2005
  | | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 12:08 pm:    |         |  
  Mwh,    For a person not to like that song I posted, they would have to not believe the gospel. That song speaks to the heart of Christmas if you are a Christian.    Stan |  
Mwh Registered user Username: Mwh
  Post Number: 418 Registered: 4-2006
 
  
  | | Posted on Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 2:22 pm:    |         |  
  They are still entrenched in the old covenant, believing that the law can be split up in Decalogue , ceremonial etc. and of course keeps the Sabbath. Of course they are former adventists, not part of the SDA-church, knows that EGW is a false prophet and that the 1844 doctrine is as false as it can be.  Please pray for them. |  
Agapetos Registered user Username: Agapetos
  Post Number: 657 Registered: 10-2002
 
  
  | | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 1:00 am:    |         |  
  Hey Mwh, what's the song about the truce?  That sounds interesting. |  
Mwh Registered user Username: Mwh
  Post Number: 422 Registered: 4-2006
 
  
  | | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 2:40 am:    |         |  
  Agapetos, I got a CD called "Absolute Christmas Disc 2" which contains the song "Jul I Ingenmandsland" (Christmas in no mans land), thats about the truce, but its in Danish. I'm not sure if its an original Danish work or its a translation ...    The text can be found here:   http://www.fredsakademiet.dk/abase/sange/sang5.htm  (peace academy)    The song is written by Lars Lilholt, he found sources for the song from an English book full of letters sent home by English soldiers.    The front cover can be seen here:  http://www.larslilholtband.dk/billeder/jul_i_ingenmandsland_low.jpg    Its fantastic, I'll send this song to everyone I know who understands Danish. Lets see, I'll translate it to English today and I'll post it here      Jesus lives!! |  
Mwh Registered user Username: Mwh
  Post Number: 423 Registered: 4-2006
 
  
  | | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 5:42 am:    |         |  
  Okay here it is, a very quick translation, I would appreciate it if you guys could fix it up a bit   (post it again, with the fixes)    Christmas in No Man's Land    It was the Christmas of 1914  during first world war   On the western front, 2 gigantic armies  had diged themselves down in front of each other  and in some places, there was only hundred meters  to the trenches of the enemy   here is a letter  from a private English soldier    When the night comes  the canons are silent   we can often hear  the Germans coughing, like us   from the mud in the trenches   especially now that it is Christmas  everyone is longing for their home  from each side   of no man's land    Christmas eve  when the twilight came  with frozen dew for the dead  we heard  the Germans singing  from the holes of the grenades  it sounded so beautiful and   I will never forget  "stille nacht" in the darkness  above no man's land    We clapped our hands  and shouted for more  "oh tandenbaum" we heard  then we sang  "oh come all ye fateful"  and answered deeply affected   we shouted "Merry Christmas"  and from a German officer  it sounded   "hey Tommy, lets meet  out in no man's land    reluctantly, slowly  and with a hammering pulse    we laid down our arms   met with the Germans, talked and smoked  shared each others hoping  against orders about firing  we got a deal fixed  aim as high as you dare  above no man's land.    We met again first day of Christmas  buried the dead  the earth was hard,  frozen and kold  the souls was soft  It was as if we heard a voice  2000 years away  from Bethlehem to Flandern  in the middle of no man's land  from Bethlehem to Flandern  in the midle of no man's land    Of course the truce couldn't last  When the supreme command   who sat far away from the front  heard the rumors, all friendly association with the enemy   was put on pair with deserting   and punished by death.  and before the Christmas had ended  the soldiers on each side of the front,  was forced to attack  An attack through barbed wire and grenade holes  to kill  or to be killed   in no man's land    Oh man Jesus is awesome and oh my the Devil is bad, oh how sweet it is that we will never die, but be with you Jesus through eternity, hallelujah!!!  |  
Agapetos Registered user Username: Agapetos
  Post Number: 659 Registered: 10-2002
 
  
  | | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 7:18 am:    |         |  
  Thank you so much, Mwh.  It's very moving.    There are only a very few English errors... it is very, very good.      The part about "grenade holes" ... does it mean "foxholes"? (A foxhole is a small hole that a soldier digs and takes shelter in, but not as big or long as a "trench")... or is it referring to the craters made in the ground by grenades? |  
Mwh Registered user Username: Mwh
  Post Number: 425 Registered: 4-2006
 
  
  | | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 3:08 pm:    |         |  
  I would think that it refers to the craters. |  
Dennis Registered user Username: Dennis
  Post Number: 931 Registered: 4-2000
 
  
  | | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 4:47 pm:    |         |  
  Mwh,    Thanks for sharing that story from the battlefield during WW I.  This reveals anew how tragic and foolish war can be.    Dennis Fischer |  
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