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Melissa
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Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 8:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard Tinker has quite a testimony on that....Maybe someone can point to the thread....
Richardtinker
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Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 9:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is a post concerning my journey towards great food!

http://formeradventist.com/discus/messages/5371/4575.html?1156196841#POST59789

Richard
River
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Posted on Saturday, June 23, 2007 - 3:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wayta go there Richard, although I had never heard of anybody being delivered from vegetables before.

After I got off the farm though and I could afford it I admit I mighta been delivered from having to eat my mamma's turnip greens Ha!

Just got around to reading that referral post and I was a grinning as I read it.

River
Jim02
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Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 6:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My attitude about foods is that I consider God had a reason about such foods that were forbidden.
I think it was a matter of health and still is. There is obviously some property in the forbidden foods that is not good for our systems.
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Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 10:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

God told Noah he could eat all animals.

The food laws only applied to Israel.

Really, what is safe? Spinach is contaminated, water, lettuce, canteloupe, what is next on the 6 o'clock news warnings?

Paul said nothing is forbidden if is received with thanksgiving and prayer. I think it very important to ask God to bless the food. I believe he protects us from the dangers in food today.
Reb
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Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 10:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Amen, Sabra!
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Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 10:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't forget - Jesus declared ALL foods clean!

Mark 7:18-20
18"Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? 19For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.")

20He went on: "What comes out of a man is what makes him 'unclean.'

It's fine to abstain from certain foods. Seriously, I hate broccoli.

:-) Leigh Anne
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Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 11:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sabra,

I totally agree with you on the subject of what we can eat.

What I find interesting is that even within the SDA church, the issue of what is ok to eat has been violently debated. While it was generally agreed to following the Old Testament Laws and not eat things like pork, the debate centered around meat eating versus being a vegetarian.

I am here to tell you that the fights over this topic was not a pretty sight to behold at our family reunions which were often held in conjunction with going to camp meeting.

My take on the debate centered on the fact some of us came from the country and lived on farms. For us, it seemed ridiculous to condemn eating beef or chicken. To outlaw butter but say cream was ok simply did not make sense. If you could eat the egg, what is the possible objection to consuming the hen it came from?

Those who were vegetarian tended to be city dwellers who seem not understand where their food comes from.

At our present day reunions, I try to be respectful of the SDA members but I really failed badly one year. We had individual camp sites and I thought I was down wind, so I got out my bacon and put it on the Coleman stove and apparently the smell went everywhere. They didn't have the guts to confront me directly. Instead, they complained to my wife who does not have an SDA background. They certainly revealed their true colors to her. Last year, us meat eaters did get away with having Kosher hot dogs at our noon potluck.

They like it that I work for a company that produces an all natural food product made from fruit puree. And they like it that we are inspected by a rabbi to make sure we comply with Kosher rules. Our plant is owned by the Kellogg Cereal Company but they didn't like it when I told them Kellogg also owns Loma Linda.

Phil
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Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 1:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Phil, I love your anecdotes! The bacon story is funny...and at the same time, I feel the cringe of embarrassment...

Jim, it's true that the food laws were given only to Israel. They were all about Israel being kept separate from the world. If they had strict food laws, then they wouldn't be able to socialize with Gentiles—which was the whole point! They were to be holy and set apart. They were not to intermarry, adopt pagan gods, lifestyles, and pollute the identity of God's people.

In Christ, however, those laws were fulfilled and nailed to the cross (Eph 2:14 and Col 2:14). In Christ God made one new man out of the two (Jew and Gentile), and all those laws of separation and uniqueness became obsolete.

The food laws were in the same package as the laws about not mixing linen and wool into the same fabric for clothes, about not yoking a donkey with an ox, etc. It was all about staying separate from the Gentiles and being God's unique people. In Christ that separation between Jew and Gentile is OVER!

Colleen
River
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Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 3:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I keeps their mind on their body and not the cross.
Get a clew people.
River
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Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 3:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good point, River. Adventism is really a carnal religion.

Colleen
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Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - 6:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That is DEEP, River! (And boy oh boy, His river is deep!) :-)

Hi Jim. About the issue of "food", I think the following thread went into things especially well: http://64.226.233.122/discus/messages/11/5568.html?1181999430

You may want to click back to the beginning of the thread and start from there. It was a pretty good discussion. In looking at the issue, I began to understand more and more the prophetic purpose for which God gave "clean/unclean" distinctions, and why these food distinctions are called "shadows of Christ" in Colossians 2:16-17.

All blessings and cleansing in Jesus!
Ramone

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