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Reb
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 7:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I mentioned something on CARM about the possiblity that Nero may have been the "beast" of Revelation.

It makes sense that Revelation would have been relevant to that time, to enocourage Christians who were being horribly persecuted by Nero.

Plus Nero's name in Hebrew, Neron Kesar adds up to 666.

I got this tidbit of info from the EGW Research Project website

An Adventist on CARM actually told me that this is a Jehovah's Witness idea and why don't I go check them out, maybe I would agree with some of their other ideas. What????

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Luzisbornagain
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 10:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why is it that adventist always tell you to join some other denomination when your discussing theology? It's a closed minded way of categorizing faith. I've been told to join a baptist or lutheran church when i was discussing the old covenant to them.

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Brian3
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 11:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

IMO there is also compelling evidence to see him as the 6th king.

Rev 17:10 HCSB They are also seven kings: five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come, and when he comes, he must remain for a little while.

1. Julius
2. Augustus
3. Tiberius
4. Caius
5. Claudius
6. Nero
7. Galba, Otho, Vitellius (Ruled for only months/weeks because of civil war after Nero’s death)
8. Vespasian (reunited Rome)

Book recommendation on subject: Revelation: Four Views: A Parallel Commentary by Steve Gregg
http://www.amazon.com/Revelation-Four-Views-Parallel-Commentary/dp/0840721285/ref=pd_bbs_1/105-0763617-7519656?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1184868447&sr=8-1
Dennis
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 12:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Reb,

I agree that Nero was known as "the beast" throughout the Roman Empire. If in doubt about Nero's extraordinary, profane life simply check it out online. Alot of Revelation was fulfilled in the First Century. The initial audience of the Apostle John knew precisely what he was talking about.

Dennis Fischer
Reb
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 1:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Exactly, Dennis.
Honestwitness
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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 5:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Luzisbornagain wrote: "Why is it that adventist always tell you to join some other denomination when your discussing theology? It's a closed minded way of categorizing faith. I've been told to join a baptist or lutheran church when i was discussing the old covenant to them."

My answer: It's because they don't want you being among their flock and polluting it with your ideas.

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Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 5:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In other words, they are stuck in their ideas and cannot move. It is like a mud mixed with clay. Easy to step into, but hell to get out of.
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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 7:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Without going into it too much, I think it's possible that Nero may have been a *shadow* of the final beast (just as Antiochus shadowed the fall of Jerusalem, and the fall of Jerusalem shadows the end), but Nero cannot be the final/full meaning of the text at all.

One reason is that Revelation 19:20 clearly says that the beast was thrown "alive" into the lake of fire. And not only that, but that he was thrown in "with the false prophet".

One thing I've learned from my time in Adventism: if a theory doesn't fit *exactly*, don't squeeze Scripture to make it fit.

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