Post Number: 37
|Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 7:20 pm: || |
It's about 10:30 here and we were getting ready for bed. I said to my husband "I'm really tired, I didn't get my sabbath nap!" Then we laughed.
But seriously, we used to sleep every sabbath from the time we got home from church until dinner time. Usually from 1:oo to 5:00. Then we would get up and go out to eat. Don't ask me why that was OK to do on the sabbath. I guess it was close enough to sundown to be ok.
Just wondering, does anyone else have an extra 4 hours every weekend like we do? We like it much better this way!
Post Number: 165
|Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2007 - 8:20 pm: || |
yeah laurie instead of sleeping the day away I was on the beach at lake michigan. the majestic sight of the water is reason enough to praise God.
Post Number: 1113
|Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 9:39 am: || |
Sabbath nap's still intact.
Everyday is my Sabbath and ever day I take a nap.
I sleep therefore I am.
Post Number: 1171
|Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 11:25 am: || |
We no longer have to wait until the end of the week to find rest. We rest in Jesus, our True Sabbath Rest, everyday. Moreover, we now start our week with Jesus in worship with other believers. It is the first thing we do every week--not the last thing. It is truly a weekly Easter.
(Message edited by Dennis on July 22, 2007)
Post Number: 638
|Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 3:11 pm: || |
IGNATIUS, the third bishop of Antioch, who died in AD 108, wrote:
"If, therefore, those who were brought up in the ancient order of things have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord's Day, on which also our life has sprung up again by Him... Let us therefore no longer keep the Sabbath after the Jewish manner, and rejoice in days of idleness; for "he that does not work, let him not eat."...let every friend of Christ keep the Lord's day as a festival, the resurrection-day, the queen and chief of all the days [of the week]" "Epistle of Ignatius to the Magnesians," The Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. 1, pp. 62-63 (emphasis added).
Post Number: 6357
|Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 8:47 pm: || |
I like that, Dennis—a weekly Easter! That is how it seems to me now, too.
Nap on, River. We'll call ya fer dinner!
Post Number: 4028
|Posted on Sunday, July 22, 2007 - 9:09 pm: || |
Dennis, I like that also-A weekly Easter. I really like starting my week with going to worship God.
In fact, I used to go to church Saturday evening, but I decided to go on Sunday morning.
Just started that about 6 weeks ago.
Post Number: 200
|Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 9:19 am: || |
Napping is one thing a Sabbitarian can do and not worry about breaking the law.
I told my wife, while still SDA, that the leadership should pass out sleeping pills so no one would break the law after church.
Yes, my weekend is four hours longer now and it feels great!
Post Number: 49
|Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 9:44 am: || |
This reminds me of something hubby said after attending this new church for a few weeks...doesn't this church have potlucks? LOL....
Post Number: 1973
|Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 1:05 pm: || |
Actually, EGW forbade resting on the sabbath!:
"None should feel at liberty to spend sanctified time in an unprofitable manner. It is displeasing to God for Sabbathkeepers to sleep during much of the Sabbath. They dishonor their Creator in so doing, and, by their example, say that the six days are too precious for them to spend in resting. They must make money, although it be by robbing themselves of needed sleep, which they make up by sleeping away holy time. They then excuse themselves by saying: "The Sabbath was given for a day of rest. I will not deprive myself of rest to attend meeting, for I need rest." Such make a wrong use of the sanctified day. They should, upon that day especially, interest their families in its observance and assemble at the house of prayer with the few or with the many, as the case may be. They should devote their time and energies to spiritual exercises, that the divine influence resting upon the Sabbath may attend them through the week. Of all the days in the week, none are so favorable for devotional thoughts and feelings as the Sabbath. 2 Testimonies, page 704"
Wow, and they claim that the Catholics have changed "the Ten Commandments"?! EGW says that the six days are for resting and the seventh day is not! Totally opposite of what the Ten Words say.
(Of course, EGW also forbade drugs, so the sleeping pills idea would also not work for an SDA! ;-))
(Message edited by Jeremy on July 23, 2007)
Post Number: 6368
|Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 2:13 pm: || |
Jeremy, thank you for the quote. Yes, I know Adventists who take Ellen's instruction about not sleeping on Sabbath very seriously. Early in our marriage, I was teaching jr. high full time. By the weekend I was absolutely exhausted, and at home I would nap after church on Sabbath. When we visited my in-laws, however, I wondered at first why, if I fell asleep after lunch, I was not permitted to nap more than half an hour.
It took me a few visits before I figured out I was allowed to sleep for 30 minutes and then awakened. It was time, then, for the family to go on an outing of some sort: visit a family member in a retirement center, walk in nature along the beach, climb a hill, etc. Of course, these Sabbath afternoon activities were not foreign to me, so it took my conditioned mind some time finally to realize my naps were merely tolerated and deliberately terminated. I would often be deeply asleep, and I would have such a hard time waking up. Sometimes I felt I could hardly move much less talk, and I would feel in a fog for maybe a half hour or so, dragging myself to the car and out onto the mountain trail when everything in me screamed to lie down and shut my eyes.
I finally asked Richard why I would be awakened from a sound sleep to go walk, and he told me it was because of the very quote you share above, Jeremy. He also told me had had grown up with that same notion governing Sabbath in their home.
Well, now we're not Adventists anymore, and I can see how the foundational authority of Ellen White kept us from defending our own convictions in those situations. Today I would not helplessly let such a thing happen, but how could one argue with Ellen? One might argue what the Bible meant, but if someone acted in loyalty to Ellen, we didn't dare assesrt our own understanding over their faithful reading of her dictums.
It's pathetic to have such burdened memories of Sabbaths on those visits!
Post Number: 1975
|Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 2:22 pm: || |
Yep, Colleen, Adventists defintely put Ellen way above the Bible and respect her way more--no matter how much they try to deny it.
Post Number: 421
|Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 2:54 pm: || |
Why don't they just call it what is really is: Ellenism?
Post Number: 274
|Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 4:25 pm: || |
Post Number: 1129
|Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 7:38 pm: || |
I am always overwhelmed by the human suffering Adventism brings with it.
Post Number: 4036
|Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 8:06 pm: || |
I do not remember when I read the quote Jeremy put on here. But I do remember, not saying anything to my husband, but suggesting to him that we drive up to the mountains or some place outside.
When my son was small, we went to a park in the good weather and when the weather was cold outside we would go to the Smithsonian museums. When it was to cold to go outside, then I read to him and played with him.
Those were enjoyable sabbaths.
We do serve an awesome God.
Post Number: 83
|Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 12:32 pm: || |
I remember back when I was a kid, our family was in a park on a Sabbath. The day was hot and there was a nice stream flowing through the park. My brother begged to be able to play in the cool water. Mother relunctantly said yes and I was horrified. It was Sabbath!!! As I watched him play and cool off in the refreshing water, I envied him so much, it almost hurt! But I wasn't about to join him. It was Sabbath!!!