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Reb
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Username: Reb
Post Number: 633
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 3:12 pm: |     |
I was pretty traumatised by the Sunday Law teaching myself, Maree. |
Jorgfe
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Username: Jorgfe
Post Number: 636
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 3:53 pm: | |
Same here, Maree
As a child, I hoped that I would die before the Sunday law was passed and our non-Adventist neighbors would come and kill us.
Gilbert Jorgensen |
Bigal
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Username: Bigal
Post Number: 90
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 3:56 pm: | |
Gilbert - I like your shortened version for the Bible Story books. I must confess that I sold mine (EGW books) at a garage sale. I feel very sorry and would not reapeat that mistake again. I should have burned them. I did trash the clear word. I Still have an unopened set of BS(Bible Stories) in my garage under a ton of other boxes. Some day they will make a good start to a bonfire.
To make up for my mistake above I now trash any brochures I come across that advertise the BS or any other SDA publications from public areas I visit.
Alan
(Message edited by bigal on August 23, 2007) |
Benevento
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Username: Benevento
Post Number: 158
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 5:58 pm: | |
I have to tell you my horror story. When my two
boys were in kindergarten at SS the teacher was
telling about the end times and how we would be persecuted.I didn't know about this until a neighbor boy came in to the house with my boys and he started telling about what they had been learning
in SS--he was delighted to be the bad guy who was
going after my kids, the good guys, and they were
all so excited, it was better than cowboys and Indians. I was horrified, and went to the SS teacher and told her what the result of her teaching had been in our lovely neighborhood, and
told her if she wasn't willing to stop we were
moving. She said she'd stop! |
Luzisbornagain
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Username: Luzisbornagain
Post Number: 101
Registered: 7-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 9:50 pm: | |
wow, the comment about schizophrenia hits home with me, because most of my family on my mom's side they all suffer from some kind of dimentia and my brother is schizophrenic as well, my grandmother is also delusional, but it could be because of her age, but my mom she's hardcore adventist and the thing is she's always irate about something never happy and she's impossible to talk to because once I start speaking something and she doesn't agree with it, she'll just cut me off and say that she knows what I'm gonna say before I even say it which is why I don't get along with her. But besides that I feel she has some kind of mental problem as well and she's not happy. She's always angry, upset, never at peace. Maybe it could be the whole SDA thing, and it saddens me because I know she's decieved but she doesn't want to face it or hear me out. It saddens me that she's not experiencing the peace you receive when you're in Christ. |
River
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Username: River
Post Number: 1339
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 4:49 am: | |
Luz,
I have discovered this same thing with my own Adventist friends, of course in the case of you grandmother, dementia may be caused by old age.
Try to remember how she was before symptoms of dementia appeared, did she seem happy and joyful then?
Joy is one of the fruits of the spirit.
But in the case of my Adventist friends, they never seem really happy, they seem like robots going through preprogrammed motions and actions but there is lack of deep joy.
That is why I have made the statement “It is a form of godliness but denies the power thereof”.
The joy of the Lord is our strength, but the constant uncertainty if living under the IJ would have a tendency to take its toll on a person’s everyday life.
River
(Message edited by river on August 24, 2007) |
Helovesme2
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Username: Helovesme2
Post Number: 1033
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 5:26 am: | |
River wrote: "The joy of the Lord is our strength, but the constant uncertainty if living under the IJ would have a tendency to take its toll on a person’s everyday life."
Amen! As an old pentecostal hymn says, "I'm rejoicing every day as I walk the narrow way that the Comforter abides with me." It is such a relief to be walking in the Spirit instead of bumbling along hoping the Investigative Judgment goes easy on me. |
Colleentinker
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Username: Colleentinker
Post Number: 6643
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 12:39 pm: | |
Amen, Mary!
Colleen |
Tricia
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Username: Tricia
Post Number: 70
Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 10:45 pm: | |
Larry, Oh man, I can't think of a more fitting use for those books! I love it!
Tricia |
Jody
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Username: Jody
Post Number: 10
Registered: 7-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 9:35 am: | |
Can anyone help me? I recently showed my mother one of the posts about the childrens books and informed her that they contain errors contradicting scripture.She took offense and thought i was being critical and mean spirited saying that she never saw anything wrong with them.My Mom was in the SDA when she was married to my Father but is now many years later in another church.She said that she doesn't see anything wrong with the SDA's and that my grandmother is a very good woman and so she is definetely goin to Heaven.She has a set of these books at her house,I told her not to read them to my kids,which i thought was no different than the reaction some parents have to their kids reading Harry Potter etc.I may not bring it up again,but just in case it does come up, does anyone know where I can get info about the errors contained in these books? |
Luzisbornagain
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Username: Luzisbornagain
Post Number: 106
Registered: 7-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 10:16 am: | |
Hey River. About my grandmother, don't get me wrong, she's actually joyful and loves to sing to the Lord and dance to the Lord, but she has a bunch of suitcases filled with dresses she made so that she can wear them in the new jerusalem.
My mom on the other hand, wasn't always like this. When I was little, I remember she used to be more happier and we didn't fight as much and we would actually laugh and play and stuff, but as I got older and reached puberty she began to be irate a lot over any little thing I did and just more controlling and unstable. I don't know what caused the change, but it could've been due to getting more dedicated to reading ellen g. white's books of course she reads the spanish version because that's her first language. Which leads me to ask, does the spanish translations of ellen's books contain the same heresies as the english or have they been covered up as other translations such as indonesian? Well, anyways I'm not quite sure when my mom started getting real into adventism, because she has been SDA all of her life. I'm third generation. But she does believe in the IJ, sabbath as the seal of God's remnant church, the end time persecutions, Jesus being Michael the Archangel, etc and we can keep going. Basically you can say she's an ellenist. |
Jeremy
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Username: Jeremy
Post Number: 2071
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 1:01 pm: | |
Jody,
Here's part of a post that I posted previously on this thread:
On www.thebiblestory.com, there are a couple of sample stories from The Bible Story set. Here is a quote from a story entitled "Jesus, Friend of Children" (which gives a Scripture reference of "Matthew 18: 1-14; 19:13-15") which very outright teaches a false gospel of salvation by works:
quote:"But what did Jesus mean when He said, 'the kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these'? Are all children ready for heaven? Oh, no indeed. I can think of some who are so naughty and rude and disobedient they would turn heaven into a madhouse if they should ever get there. Others are so destructive they would tear the New Jerusalem to pieces in no time at all if Jesus were to let them in.
Jesus was thinking of sweet, innocent, unspoiled children when He said, 'The kingdom of heaven belongs to such as these.' He had in mind those dear boys and girls who respect and obey their parents and who try to be helpful and unselfish at home and at school. Heaven will be made up of people like this.
And if we are not like this now? Then we must change or be left out. That is why Jesus wants us to come to Him, so He can change us. He wants to make us as kind, patient, tenderhearted, and sweet-tempered as He was as a boy."
--http://www.thebiblestory.com/tbs/samp_stor_frnd.php
Jeremy |
Jeremy
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Username: Jeremy
Post Number: 2072
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 1:03 pm: | |
Luz,
They may have deleted/edited some "embarrassing" parts of EGW's writings in the different translations, but they are no doubt still filled with heresy.
Jeremy |
Sara
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Username: Sara
Post Number: 44
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 1:19 pm: | |
Amen, Mary |
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