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Jim02
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Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 6:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am guilty of this myself.
Over and over, I am reminded that I must measure my words when attempting to state a position, thought or belief (doctrine).

Sentences are usually and Index to a volume of thought. They are "partial views" to a larger picture.

Often, we, I , us, them, people, teachers, writers, counselors, pastors etc... create "hard sayings" that are sometimes out of season. They state positions that come across harsh, sometimes confusing and sometimes discouraging.

While some conversations are aimed between a dialogue where the parties are well grounded in the volume of pre knowledge. In the format of open forums, there are people who may be confused when our words are vague. Again, I am guilty of this myself.
I realize one cannot always cover every aspect or tangent. But I think it is a worthwhile consideration to measure our expressions to avoid the distractions to getting to understanding.

IMO, :-)
Jim
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Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 3:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You make a good point, Jim. I'm wondering if you have specific areas of confusion right now about which you sense our communication is vague? Don't feel bad about asking...your questions are good.

Colleen
Jim02
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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 6:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Colleen,

I don't have anything new that comes to mind right at the moment.

I am still pondering over the main points:
New Covenant Vs Old Covenant.
Legal matters, extracting intent and meanings.
Rereading scripture without filters and blinders.
Hell
Mystery's
Trinity

In other areas, I often get puzzled when "summary" comments are made about SDA's positions, oddities or quirks. I sometimes recieve the comments I read here and there from various folks as , Wham !, I wonder, wow , where did they get that idea? and so on.

Other examples are when soemone speaks a nugget of truth or conclusion without explaining or referencing how they arrived at that position.

Part of learning I guess.
Patriar
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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 7:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jim:

I would add that our filters are often what make the statements unclear. It takes actually talking it through to get to the root of what's being discussed and figuring out what's wrong in our paradigm to be able to work it back 'out' to the statement that has been made.

On a forum like this, especially for Colleen, Jeremy and others who have posted literally hundreds or thousands of times, they are stating truth with such precision that the rest of us have to close our eyes, squint and think REAL hard to figure out what they're saying. Then lo and behold, you'll find yourself saying the exact same thing to someone soon.

Patria

(Message edited by patriar on August 28, 2007)

(Message edited by patriar on August 28, 2007)
Jim02
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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 11:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Patria, Good point.

I tend to be linear in my thinking.
In my line of work , It sometimes includes writing technical information and owners manuals.

You would be surprised how many ways a customer can find to misconstrue instructions,getting into trouble in ways I never thought of. :-)

Jim
Patriar
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Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 5:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jim,

Great analogy! :-)

I was thinking as I read your post that the Word of God is truly our manual for all of life.

Patria

(Message edited by patriar on August 28, 2007)

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