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| Pnoga Registered user Username: Pnoga Post Number: 21 Registered: 1-2007 |
I was at church this past Saturday and there was a guest singer there. He sang a song called the Midnight Cry which basically is the Second Coming of Jesus Christ according to EGW. I always knew that no one knew the day, hour or moment of the Second Advent. Not people, angels, or the Son, only the Father Himself. So I looked this up, I think this puts an end to EGW as a prophet and the SDA doctrine altogether. Notice she (EGW) says it's at midnight. Jesus says no one knows, be on alert you do not know whether at midnight or morning. My only question is why no one in the SDA church sees this as a major contradiction. ________________________________________________________________________ Quote It is at midnight that God manifests His power for the deliverance of His people. The sun appears, shining in its strength. Signs and wonders follow in quick succession. The wicked look with terror and amazement upon the scene, while the righteous behold with solemn joy the tokens of their deliverance. Everything in nature seems turned out of its course. The streams cease to flow. Dark, heavy clouds come up and clash against each other. In the midst of the angry heavens is one clear space of indescribable glory, whence comes the voice of God like the sound of many waters, saying: “It is done.” (The Great Controversy Chapter: God’s People Delivered Page 360 Paperback Happy Digest series) _________________________________________________ Mark 13:32-37 (On Christ’s Second Advent) 32"(X)But of that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. 33"Take heed, (Y)keep on the alert; for you do not know when the appointed time will come. 34"(Z)It is like a man away on a journey, who upon leaving his house and putting his slaves in charge, assigning to each one his task, also commanded the doorkeeper to stay on the alert. 35"Therefore, (AA)be on the alert--for you do not know when the master of the house is coming, whether in the evening, at midnight, or (AB)when the rooster crows, or (AC)in the morning-- 36in case he should come suddenly and find you (AD)asleep. 37"What I say to you I say to all, '(AE)Be on the alert!'" (Message edited by pnoga on September 17, 2007) (Message edited by pnoga on September 17, 2007) | ||
| Philharris Registered user Username: Philharris Post Number: 183 Registered: 5-2007  |
Pnoga, You are right. It is almost as if she pick word-for-word, a false statement, hoping to be caught and exposed for who she really was. We only have ourselves to blame for ever believing her in the first place. Phil (Message edited by philharris on September 17, 2007) | ||
| Snowboardingmom Registered user Username: Snowboardingmom Post Number: 341 Registered: 11-2005 |
Wow, you're right Pnoga! I never realized that before. Like you, I always knew that no one knew the day or hour of His second coming. And I had read Mark 13:35 before which talks about "midnight" specifically, as well as the Great Controversy paragraph. But I had never put them together in my head! Isn't that amazing how deception can blind you to the most obvious contradiction?! Wow! Grace | ||
| Godssonjp Registered user Username: Godssonjp Post Number: 55 Registered: 1-2007 |
I must have heard "The Midnight cry" a million times when I attended my former SDA church. There's a woman there who is requested to sing this song often for services. I was at a funeral a few weeks ago of a young man and his mom requested she sing this song. There's a part of a verse where, specifically, it mentions Christ coming at midnight. That was the first time that that part of the song about Christ coming at midnight stuck out at me. I guess I never really paid attention before. It's amazing how, since I left Adventism, that these things pop out at me now. | ||
| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 809 Registered: 11-2005 |
Wow! That is amazing. Thanks, Pnoga, for the insight. Truly amazing. Seventh-day Adventism is so full of contradictions. Thank you for adding to the "Exposing Adventism" collection! Gilbert Jorgensen It has been 162 Years, 10 Months, and 26 Days since October 22, 1844 | ||
| Larry Registered user Username: Larry Post Number: 177 Registered: 5-2007 |
Well, hang on a minute now. When Christ does come, it will be midnite in exactly ONE timezone somewhere in the world, but it will be NON-midnight in 23 other timezones! Hope that clears up the confusion  | ||
| Pnoga Registered user Username: Pnoga Post Number: 22 Registered: 1-2007 |
LOL! | ||
| Pnoga Registered user Username: Pnoga Post Number: 23 Registered: 1-2007 |
Here's another one... ________________________________________________ QUOTE "As God has shown me in holy vision ... we heard the voice of God like many waters, which gave us the day and hour of Jesus' coming" (Early Writings, pp. 15, 34, 285). _________________________________________________ | ||
| Laurie Registered user Username: Laurie Post Number: 110 Registered: 6-2007 |
Well... if they are willing to overlook the problem of setting the date of Christ's return in Oct 1844, what's the big deal with singing that He will now return at Midnight? Laurie | ||
| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 814 Registered: 11-2005 |
Of course, Seventh-day Adventists say she is a prophet, and so she could "hear" anything -- as long as she didn't remember it! And since they elevate her to the status of a Bible prophet she is free to say anything, no matter how obsurd, and it is "inspired". It really would be interesting to find out what she "produced" while she was under the influence of her hard vinegar addiction. I think that would be as damning as her blatant plagarism. It would also bring into focus that for an extended period of time she was so drunk that even her friends thought she was going to die! Gilbert Jorgensen It has been 162 Years, 10 Months, and 26 Days since October 22, 1844 | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 2150 Registered: 10-2004  |
Also, though, EGW was supposedly seeing the future, and was saying that the "saints" would hear and know the day and hour of Jesus' coming at some point before He came. Which contradicts the Bible. Jeremy (Message edited by Jeremy on September 17, 2007) |
