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Jorgfe
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Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 2:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Somehow this gives me a sick feeling in my stomach. When has the Seventh-day Adventist organization ever been honest with the public?

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Representatives of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) and the Seventh-day Adventist Church met here Aug. 22-24 to better understand each other’s faith, remove stereotypes, and explore areas of possible cooperation.

The meeting was a follow-up to the one held last November Adventist world headquarters in Silver Spring, MD.

Participants discussed four papers prepared for the gathering on the two traditions’ understandings of sola scriptura (biblical authority), law and gospel, and the writings of Adventist theologian Ellen G. White and John Calvin in relation to the two topics.

The conversation, notable for its cordiality and warm fellowship, revealed unanimity concerning the place of Scripture as the only rule of faith and practice. It also produced agreement on the role of the law as a guide to Christian living.


I wonder if the Seventh-day Adventists would be willing to share the following with their PCA counterparts?

The June 1976 issue of Ministry Magazine, the official publication for Seventh-day Adventist ministers has a rather enlightening article. The title of the article, beginning on page 7, is “What It Means to Be Part of — The Highest Authority That God Has Upon Earth”. (http://www.adventistarchives.org/docs/MIN/MIN1976-06/index.djvu?djvuopts&page=7)

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At a General Conference worship, Jan. 9, 1976, General Conference President Robert H. Pierson said:

When you and I joined the General Conference family something special happened to us. When we begin work in the General Conference office we become part of what inspiration describes as God’s highest authority on earth. … All of us are something special in God’s sight. Our relationship to our church, to the world field, to one another, and to the work entrusted to us is unique. We are part of ‘the highest authority that God has on earth.’… This office is the headquarters of our Commanding Officer — the Lord Jesus Christ Himself. These three buildings are not ordinary buildings…. These buildings constitute a consecrated place where God, through His appointed servants —you, me — directs His worldwide work. … As those of us here on the General Conference staff continue our unique service for Him, let us remember that we are daily, hourly, momentarily a part of a group of leaders that constitute the highest authority of God upon earth…


I guess the Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, Evangelicals and others are not part of the Body of Christ? And what about the great reformers and preachers of the past that we studied about in our Bible classes?

A triumphalistic church and a triumphalistic leadership will not be quick to repent and to openly acknowledge mistakes. Unqualified admission that mistakes have been made are rare in Adventism. A thoughtful observer could not but see that this Rome-like ecclesiology springs from a soteriology of the same character.

Gilbert Jorgensen

It has been 162 Years, 10 Months, and 27 Days since October 22, 1844
River
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Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 4:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, I would imagine they failed to mention the GC quote Gilbert, and a few other things like investigative judgment, Jesus being an angle, no sex between married couples (animal passions), Gaseous trees, ankles, no Possum and sweat taters, no assurance, no WalMart on Saturdays, no joy no how and thats just the tip of the ice burg.

Now do you think that there might have been a few things they failed to discus?
River
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Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 5:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sigh. Big sigh again.

The Presbyterian Church USA is, I believe, fairly liberal. The two churches should actually get along quite well since I don't believe either one believes in Scriptural inerrancy. In the atmosphere of the emergent movement moving through Christianity, the Adventists and the Presbyterians (USA) and other liberal denominations who have abandoned the reliability and absolute authority of Scripture will find it easy to have conversations together.

Imagine—comparing their experiences of understanding the Bible with the influence of Ellen and John Calvin! The fact that Adventism grew out of an Arian root while the Presbyterians grew out of the true apostolic root will, at this point, likely seem like a trivial detail. Since the Adventists can morph their stated beliefs to look like anything they want people to think they are, and since the Presbyterians USA have abaonded the literal, historical, grammatical, inerrant reading of Scripture, what is there to alarm them?

Yet somehow, if the real truth about Adventism were known, I suspect there are theologians and clergy among the Presbyterian USA church that would be alarmed if they knew the real truth.

Colleen
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Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 6:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Colleen,

I accept your sigh,and your big sigh and raise you two more sighs.
Sigh.......
Agapetos
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Posted on Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 10:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hit me one!
Flyinglady
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Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 6:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will add another BIG 'SIGH'.
Diana
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Posted on Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 6:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What with all this sighing going on why don't we just opt for a spiritual group hug.

Phil

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