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| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 1354 Registered: 11-2005 |
Exposing Adventism - The Adventist Gospel of Probation When all the "theological dust" settles there are only two gospels: 1. The "gospel of adoption" 2. The "gospel of probation" The "gospel of adoption" teaches exactly that. It IS Good News. It teaches that at the moment we are "adopted" as a "child of God" we become a member of Christ’s True Church and we are accepted just as we are. This is known as being "born again". Baptism follows as an outward sign that we have committed our lives to the Lord. It is not an entry process into membership in some denomination. That is the Christian gospel. That is the gospel that we former Adventists believe in. The "gospel of probation" teaches exactly that. It teaches that we are all are on "probation". It teaches that it is entirely possible that we will never be good enough no matter how hard we try. That is the Adventist "gospel". It is a "gospel of probation". It is NOT "Good News". Not only does Adventism teach a "gospel of probation", but Adventism teaches a "Close of Probation" where there is no more hope for those of us who have not, through our own efforts, achieved a state of sinlessness. To the sinless Adventist, Christ is an example rather than a Savior. To emphasize that point SDA prophetess Ellen White teaches that Christ too was on "probation" and that it is sinless Adventists who "vindicate" God. Gilbert Jorgensen | ||
| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 542 Registered: 7-2007 |
When I was an Adventist, I didn't believe a person had to achieve "sinlessness." Rather, I believed that Ellen White was speaking metaphorically, when she spoke about achieving sinlessness. By the same token though, I took the Bible somewhat metaphorically because it spoke of the "free gift" of salvation and that we believers "have been saved" but Ellen White contradicted that. Therefore I took a position kind of halfway between the two. I was totally astonished to find that Ellen White actually contradicted the Bible (such as in her "investigative judgment" teaching). When I was able to stop believing her, I found that I was able to believe the Bible just the way it's written. I didn't have to use Ellen White any more to "interpret" the Bible.  | ||
| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 1355 Registered: 11-2005 |
http://exposingadventism.com/content/facts/salvation_are-you-sinless-yet.php Seventh-day Adventism teaches that: "Those only who through faith in Christ obey all of God's commandments will reach the condition of sinlessness in which Adam lived before his transgression" (Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary, vol. 6, p. 1118) "At this time in the history of the world, we should have but one object in view--to gain eternal life. Every other desire should be subordinate to this. The work of regeneration must go on in every soul until perfection of character is reached; for nothing short of this will meet the mind of God." (Manuscript 119, 1899, p. 1;"Words to Parents," August 21, 1899; 5MR 338.2) "Christ died to make it possible for you to cease to sin, and sin is the transgression of the law" (Review and Herald, vol. 71, No. 35, p. 1, August 28, 1894.) "Those only who through faith in Christ obey all of God's commandments will reach the condition of sinlessness in which Adam lived before his transgression. They testify to their love of Christ by obeying all his precepts" (Manuscript 122, 1901, quoted in the Seventh-day Adventist Bible Commentary, vol. 6, p. 1118). "To every one who surrenders fully to God is given the privilege of living without sin, in obedience to the law of heaven. ... God requires of us perfect obedience. We are to purify ourselves, even as he is pure. By keeping his commandments, we are to reveal our love for the Supreme Ruler of the universe" (Review and Herald, September 27, 1906, p. 8). It pains me to say, my brethren, that your sinful neglect to walk in the light has enshrouded you in darkness. You may now be honest in not recognizing and obeying the light; the doubts you have entertained, your neglect to heed the requirements of God, have blinded your perceptions so that darkness is now to you light, and light is darkness. God has bidden you to go forward to perfection. Christianity is a religion of progress. Light from God is full and ample, waiting our demand upon it. Whatever blessings the Lord may give, He has an infinite supply beyond, an inexhaustible store from which we may draw. Skepticism may treat the sacred claims of the gospel with jests, scoffing, and denial. The spirit of worldliness may contaminate the many and control the few; the cause of God may hold its ground only by great exertion and continual sacrifice, yet it will triumph finally. (5T 71.1) |
