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Jorgfe
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 6:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Exposing Adventism - Choose a hand ...

Choose a hand ...

The Right Hand - Adventism's message seeking acceptance and inclusion as a Christian church:
On the one hand there is a message promoting a positive image, seeking acceptance and inclusion.
  • We Adventists are good people and live good lives
  • We believe in families and traditional family values
  • We are your friends, neighbors and family
  • We call you Christians
  • We are Christians
  • The Seventh-day Adventist Church is a Christian church
  • We believe in God
  • We believe in Jesus
  • We believe in a Second Coming and have the name "Advent" in the name of our Church (Seventh-day Adventist)
  • Why would you not accept us a Christians?
The Left Hand - Adventism's message declaring the unacceptability and exclusion of all other churches:
On the other hand there is the Seventh-day Adventist Church's negative message rejecting and excluding all other churches from true Christianity.
  • We are the only true church
  • We are the only living church
  • All other churches are wrong and unacceptable as true Christianity
  • All other churches are harlots of Babylon
  • There is no excuse for the existence of any other church
  • Satan has taken full possession of the churches as a body
  • All other churches' creeds and doctrines are an abomination
  • All the ministers in your churches are corrupt
  • All your churches are divided and cannot get along
  • All your churches are churches of the devil
  • All other so-called Christian churches are completely apostate
  • The fullness of the gospel disappeared from the earth until Seventh-day Adventism arrived in the 1800's
  • The gospel you preach is false
  • The true gospel can only be found in the Seventh-day Adventist Church
  • Your ministers are hirelings of Satan
  • The name Seventh-day Adventist is a standing rebuke to the Protestant world
  • The Seventh-day Adventist Church alone are God's remnant people
  • The Seventh-day Adventist General Conference is God's highest authority on earth
  • Satan is now in heaven answering the prayers of non-Adventists
Why is Seventh-day Adventism seeking acceptance from the "Unacceptables"?


Gilbert Jorgensen
Larry
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 9:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like an attempt coordinated by their underworld master to take over the Christian name for themselves, leaving all else rejected of God. Clearly they are teaching another god. What does Deuteronomy 13:7,9,10 tell us?

Wolves in sheeps clothing comes to mind.

Not that we should go out and load up guns or knives, but that is the gravity of the serious spot satan has bound these deceived people.
Jorgfe
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 9:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We need to help Adventists "put a face" on these people that they call "apostates".

From an Adventist perspective, why is Seventh-day Adventism seeking acceptance from the "Unacceptables"?

Gilbert Jorgensen
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 10:49 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It helps with the unconscious project of becoming more and more, wolves-in-sheeps-clothing?
Colleentinker
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 2:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That is a really good question, Gilbert. It seems to be part of the "hide-in-plain-sight" program they're operating. They are not changing at all, yet they are more and more attempting to be embraced as a mainstream Protestant church.

I have a theory that they are meeting with some success in this attempt because of the spreading "emergent" movement within evangelicalism. The emergent church is losing the focus on the true gospel, and it is forging connections with groups that have not been considered part of evangelical Christianity, even respecting the insights about God that can be gleaned from non-Christian religions. Adventism fits well in this emergent milieu. It is chameleon-like, and it can hide will in a tolerant, accepting environment that doesn't demand much in terms of biblical doctrinal purity.

Adventism has NOT changed.
Colleen
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Posted on Monday, November 24, 2008 - 2:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree, Adventism has not changed. No matter what any Adventism says, the 28 Fundamental Beliefs are still there. Not a one has been repudiated by the church.
Diana
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Posted on Tuesday, November 25, 2008 - 3:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes Gilbert the question of trying to gain acceptance among churches that are "unacceptable" always plagued me. When I was SDA, I always tried to befriend but still offend people from other churches. It is amazing how I was able to keep 2 opposing ideas in my head

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