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Jorgfe
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Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 11:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Exposing Adventism - Sabbath In Objectionable Areas

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"God rested on the seventh day, and set it apart for man to observe in honor of His creation of the heavens and the earth in six literal days. He blessed and sanctified and made holy the day of rest. When men are so careful to search and dig to see in regard to the precise period of time, we are to say, God made His Sabbath for a round world; and when the seventh day comes to us in that round world, controlled by the sun that rules the day, it is the time, in all countries and lands, to observe the Sabbath. In the countries where there is no sunset for months, and again no sunrise for months, the period of time will be calculated by records kept. But God has a world large enough, and proper and right for the human beings He has created to inhabit it, without finding homes in those lands so objectionable in very many, many ways. [...] The Sabbath was made for a round world, and therefore obedience is required of the people that are in perfect consistency with the Lord's created world." (Letter 167, 1900.)
I think this quote pretty well speaks for itself and its author, SDA prophetess, Ellen White.
"In the countries where there is no sunset for months, and again no sunrise for months, the period of time will be calculated by records kept."
Huh? Records kept by who? Calculated by God, or Seventh-day Adventists living there?

I have a good friend who is located in Anchorage. Alaska. He has obviously made a serious salvational blunder by choosing to live in a land that is "so objectionable in very many, many ways!


Gilbert Jorgensen
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Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 12:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You hear that Momma? Its not only objectionable to live up there on Sabbath principles, its objectionable in many, many ways.

I don't know eggzakly what the many other ways are, but E.G. has spoken!

I for one am sorry you screwed up! Poor woman, she dasn't have a chance.

River
Martin
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Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 12:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Poor inuits! They do live in some objectionable lands for sure.

Besides the times, they'll probably find it very hard to have a purely vegetarian diet. I suppose that eating seal, whale and polar bears is not precisely what some people would consider healthy.

Thank God they can accept Jesus and still live in such a freezing place if they wish to do so.

(Message edited by Martin on December 01, 2008)
Philharris
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Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 1:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gen. 9:1;11:1-9 KJV

And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there. And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter. And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded. And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech. So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

When God said to replenish the earth, he had the whole earth in mind. It is clear that the sin of the people included their unwillingness to settle in and occupy the whole earth.

When Ellen says there are areas of the earth not intended to be occupied by man she is contradicting God. The root of her error appears to be part of the same sin as that of ancient Babylon.

Phil
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Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 8:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ooh, good insight, Phil!

Colleen
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Posted on Monday, December 01, 2008 - 8:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, I certainly am glad we have folks living in these remote areas. I wouldn't want to live there myself, but I'm glad somebody wants to do so. The reason I'm glad is because this is one of the things that helped me see that the fourth commamdment cannot be a moral law, because it cannot be applied universally.

Having said that, I do have to agree that these lands are objectionable for many reasons. But that doesn't mean I think people should avoid living there, just because they can't keep the seventh-day sabbath there.

Interesting how EGW prescribed where people should live geographically. I don't recall any instance of a Bible prophet telling people where they should and should not live. I could be wrong here. I'm open to correction.

Honestwitness
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Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2008 - 11:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's -25 right now, here at the "North Pole". Enough said. :-)
Joyfulheart
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Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2008 - 6:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

...and I thought I was cold today!
River
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Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 2:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

To a special friend whom I so affectionately gave the moniker "MooseMeat".

When it is cold outside she has a special occasion to give thanks to our Lord, a warm house, a warm family and warm friends. She lacks for nothing, complete in Jesus.
And there ain't a durn thing the likes of E.G.W can do about it. :-)
River
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Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 6:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow River, you're up early. Couldn't sleep? Hope you (and all here) have a wonderful day today!

Blessings,

Mary
River
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Posted on Thursday, December 04, 2008 - 7:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have been going to bed too early because I am too tired and I wake up in the middle of the night.

One thing about that is I can think and pray then go back to bed. Ha.
Blessing back on ya Mary.
River
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Posted on Friday, December 05, 2008 - 10:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hugs to you River! :-) Looking forward to seeing you in January. We'll be there in Portland the 15th-20th, but unfortunately the 16th, 17th, and 18th will be very busy with the wedding, so I'm thinking the 19th might be the best day, although that's a Monday and may be inconvenient for some of you. Perhaps supper at the Olive Garden in Battle Ground when you all are off work?

Phil, what sayest thou? Bob and Jan? Ron? Anyone, anyone? :-)
Philharris
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Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 5:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mommamayi,

Monday the 19th will work perfect for me in as much that is a normal day off.

Phil
Mommamayi
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Posted on Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 7:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cool! You know what I'll do? Go post this as a separate thread over in the member's only section.

~D

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