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| Helovesme2 Registered user Username: Helovesme2 Post Number: 1753 Registered: 8-2004  |
No matter how much light (truth) is around them, a blind man still cannot see. The light does NOT make a difference. | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 6172 Registered: 3-2004  |
That is why only Jesus can heal the blind/those who cannot see. Diana | ||
| Helovesme2 Registered user Username: Helovesme2 Post Number: 1754 Registered: 8-2004 |
Yep! Is no magic formula (set of truths) that will open the eyes of the blind, just Jesus. Lord, open the eyes of the blind! | ||
| Indy4now Registered user Username: Indy4now Post Number: 326 Registered: 2-2008 |
interesting... whenever I attempt to talk to my mom about some of the contradictions in Adventism... she gets this glazed look in her eyes. It's like the look of someone who is blind when you're talking to them. ~vivian | ||
| Joyfulheart Registered user Username: Joyfulheart Post Number: 396 Registered: 10-2006 |
Mary, that is really a profound thought - and so true! | ||
| Jonvil Registered user Username: Jonvil Post Number: 258 Registered: 4-2007 |
On an other forum I, tongue-in-cheek, compared Adventists to victims who succumb to the Stockholm Syndrome where the victims becomes sympathetic and will defend those who are terrorizing them, its a bit of a stretch however there are similarities. (Wikipedia) STOCKHOLM SYNDROME IS A PSYCHOLOGICAL RESPONSE SOMETIMES SEEN IN AN ABDUCTED HOSTAGE, IN WHICH THE HOSTAGE SHOWS SIGNS OF LOYALTY TO THE HOSTAGE-TAKER, REGARDLESS OF THE DANGER (OR AT LEAST RISK) IN WHICH THEY HAVE BEEN PLACED. The syndrome is named after the Norrmalmstorg robbery of Kreditbanken at Norrmalmstorg, Stockholm, Sweden, in which the bank robbers held bank employees hostage from August 23 to August 28 in 1973. In this case, the victims became emotionally attached to their victimizers, and even defended their captors after they were freed from their six-day ordeal. The term Stockholm Syndrome was coined by the criminologist and psychiatrist Nils Bejerot, who assisted the police during the robbery, and referred to the syndrome in a news broadcast.[1] Other uses LOYALTY TO A MORE POWERFUL ABUSER (ELLEN?) in spite of the danger that this loyalty puts the victim in is common among victims of domestic abuse, battered partners and child abuse (dependent children). IN MANY INSTANCES THE VICTIMS CHOOSE TO REMAIN LOYAL TO THEIR ABUSER, AND CHOOSE NOT TO LEAVE HIM OR HER, EVEN WHEN THEY ARE OFFERED A SAFE PLACEMENT IN FOSTER HOMES OR SAFE HOUSES. This mental phenomenon is also known as Trauma-Bonding or Bonding-to-the-Perpetrator. This syndrome was described by psychoanalysts of the object relations theory school (see Fairbairn) as the phenomenon of psychological identification with the more powerful abuser. A variant of Stockholm Syndrome includes cases of abusive parents and abusive siblings in which THE VICTIM, EVEN AFTER ENTERING ADULTHOOD, STILL JUSTIFIES THE FAMILY ABUSE. Psychoanalytic explanations According to the psychoanalytic view of the syndrome, the tendency might well be the result of employing the strategy evolved by newborn babies TO FORM AN EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENT TO THE NEAREST POWERFUL ADULT (ELLEN?) IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE THE PROBABILITY that this adult will enable at the very least the SURVIVAL of the child, if not also prove to be a good parental figure. THIS SYNDROME IS CONSIDERED A PRIME EXAMPLE FOR THE DEFENSE MECHANISM OF IDENTIFICATION. Beat me up or, what say you. John Douglas | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 9185 Registered: 12-2003  |
John, I do believe there is an element of Stockholm syndrome in belonging to a cult, whether one was born into it or not. It involves believing in a "reality" or worldview which is not based on truth and then being terrorized (or merely "warned") that to deviate would mean death in some form (eternal death, death from belonging to the group, etc.) Your use of an abusive family to make your point is right on. I've often compared Adventism to an abusive family where the "kids" are taught that the hidden cruelty and manipulation is "normal". A lie is a lie--whether it is called "doctrine" or anything else. Colleen |
