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Colleentinker
Registered user
Username: Colleentinker
Post Number: 10296
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 2:41 pm: |     |
Yum--I'm hungry at the moment; that sounds awesome!
Animal, we love ya! (So, are you a purring animal or one that grunts and sighs like our sheltie when he's happy?)
Colleen |
Flyinglady
Registered user
Username: Flyinglady
Post Number: 7391
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 2:46 pm: | |
I have an adventist cook book. When my son was a baby I found the communion bread recipe in it. I made it and did something different and made it sweet. I do not remember all that I did, but we enjoyed it.
Diana L |
Hec
Registered user
Username: Hec
Post Number: 479
Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 3:18 pm: | |
Animal,
I did not take your comment with any offense. My question was a serious one since I heard that non-Adventist pastor saying that we could use any form of bread and any liquid to have communion. I really would like a serious answer from the people here. Thanks.
Hec |
Animal
Registered user
Username: Animal
Post Number: 640
Registered: 7-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 4:15 pm: | |
I personally dont think it matters what you use for the wine or bread(as long as it aint something thast would offend the participants.) We do have freedom in Christ. But Bible teaches us not to use our freedom to offend or hurt others.
Colleen...cats purr..Animal Howls at the moon !!!
So..when the moon is at its peak and you hear the "howling in the wind", be on guard, Animal is on the prowl...he he he he .
Hec...i know my comment wasnt offensive. Your question was indeed valid. Animal was just trying to add a bit of humor to the conversation and my delivery wasnt quite up to par..LOL LOL. Please forgive me my friend.
Animal |
Bskillet
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Username: Bskillet
Post Number: 561
Registered: 8-2008
| | Posted on Friday, August 28, 2009 - 10:04 pm: | |
quote:Not saying everyone should partake of the fermented fruit of the vine.. but that it's not a sin is a relief to know!!
I'm sitting here sipping a nice Lambrusco before bed, and I am reminded of Isaiah's description of the Wedding Supper of the Lamb (Isaiah 25:6):
quote:The Lord of Hosts will prepare a feast
for all the peoples on this mountain —
a feast of aged wine, choice meat, finely aged wine.
Mmm. Choice meat and finely aged wine. Delicious. I wonder what pairing He will use. At any rate, with meat and aged wine on the menu, the Adventists there will have to get over their qualms or miss out on a lovely dinner. |
Dennis
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Username: Dennis
Post Number: 1784
Registered: 4-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 8:35 am: | |
Bskillet,
Thank you for pointing out God's select non-vegetarian and fine wine menu for His great banquet on Mt. Zion. Interestingly, I consulted the commentary on this passage (from a well-known commentator who is known to be a teetotaler) and he simply didn't comment about the menu that Isaiah describes (smile).
Likewise, our Adventist friends completely ignore the New Moon celebration described in Isaiah 66:23 and concentrate solely on the Sabbath instead. Obviously, Isaiah is speaking metaphorically (in both passages) that all humanity will participate in worshipping the Lord at stipulated times and that the very finest, banquet menu will be featured.
Isaiah spoke in terms that his immediate audience would readily understand. Of course, we will not celebrate any shadows pointing to the Cross nor eat blood sausage and/or soft vascular tissue in heaven. Heaven will be completely death-free (Isaiah 25:8) and thereby slaughterhouse-free. Truly, our interpretation of the Bible is often less than unbiased. The prophet Isaiah would not have used metaphors that reflect sinfulness to describe heaven.
Dennis Fischer |
Bskillet
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Username: Bskillet
Post Number: 562
Registered: 8-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 9:40 am: | |
Dennis, you are correct. The texts are indeed metaphorical. The physical laws of the new universe will be different from the ones in this universe. But more to the point, Isa. 25:6 poses a quandry for Adventism (and any who teach that alcohol is inherently sinful). They would have to explain why God uses the imagery of something that He considers evil in order to explain the ultimate joy that He will give us in heaven. This is not unlike their problem with the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, or their problem with Revelation 6:9-11. |
Dennis
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Username: Dennis
Post Number: 1786
Registered: 4-2000
| | Posted on Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 10:17 am: | |
Very true, Bskillet! One SDA apologist used to insist that the "wine" at the Last Supper was somehow merely raisin juice (smile).
Dennis Fischer
(Message edited by Dennis on August 29, 2009) |
Hec
Registered user
Username: Hec
Post Number: 493
Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, August 30, 2009 - 7:26 pm: | |
Hey, that's an idea. Raisin juice! They could preserve the grapes as raisins and when the juice was needed just make it from the raisins. WOW! Problem solved.
Hec |
Bskillet
Registered user
Username: Bskillet
Post Number: 568
Registered: 8-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, August 30, 2009 - 8:20 pm: | |
Yep, but the problem is the raisin juice would ferment as well. It has just as much sugar. |
Hec
Registered user
Username: Hec
Post Number: 498
Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, August 30, 2009 - 8:27 pm: | |
Oh shoot! Back to the drawing board.
Hec |
Olga
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Username: Olga
Post Number: 181
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, August 30, 2009 - 8:29 pm: | |
I posted something in response to this thread in the members only section. Just a silly post.
Olga |
