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Jeremy
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Username: Jeremy
Post Number: 3056
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 1:23 pm: |     |
Paul,
Actually, EGW did teach that sugar and desserts were sin. (But she didn't say anything about high carb diets.) Many SDAs simply ignore her statements about sugar, at least to some extent. I grew up feeling guilty about eating sugar, however, since it was sin, according to EGW.
Jeremy
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Pnoga
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Username: Pnoga
Post Number: 298
Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 2:38 pm: | |
Leigh Anne, wether or not it is true, not sure but you can google it if you like.
Hec, good point
Jeremy, can you point me to the sugar writings of EGW, just curious, thanks.
I'm not knocking either or, I think anything can be bad if not taken in moderation, surely a vegatarian diet is good for you as long as you are getting the essential vitamins. Eating too much meat can be bad as well. For me it's all about moderation, since I enjoy meat. Either way food and drink have no part in our salvation, so it's our choice when it comes to our health. God's Grace is awsome.
Paul |
Jeremy
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Post Number: 3057
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| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 3:34 pm: | |
Paul, here are some links:
http://egwdatabase.whiteestate.org/nxt/gateway.dll/egw-comp/section00000.htm/book06051.htm/chapter06083.htm
http://egwdatabase.whiteestate.org/nxt/gateway.dll/egw-comp/section00000.htm/book00966.htm/chapter00988.htm
http://egwdatabase.whiteestate.org/nxt/gateway.dll/egw-comp/section00000.htm/book06051.htm/chapter06096.htm
She even says that sugar is worse than meat! It's incredible how much SDAs ignore her, isn't it?
Jeremy
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Pnoga
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Post Number: 299
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| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 5:17 pm: | |
Jeremy thanks for the links, it truly is amazing why most Adventists who claim she is God's true prophet yet do not follow every advice she gives. |
Philharris
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Username: Philharris
Post Number: 1862
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 6:02 pm: | |
The family I grew up in?
Dad was a renaged. He smoked, drank and always had a stack of girly magazines under his bed. Mother was wishy washy. We never went to church until grandma led me to the Lord at age six. I said we should go to church so we did. When I quit going so did mother and my sisters. Up until then we ate clean meats, etc. I had no spiritual direction from my parents. That all came from grandmother. You might say I ran my own life even as a small child. At age nine, I had my first paying job doing farm work. When possible (after school, weekends, and summer), I have had a job ever since. Even when in Adventist schools in the eighth and ninth grades I worked as a janitor and one summer I help build a new classroom.
The only moral advice dad ever offered was; "If you get a girl pregnant, consider what is going to happen if you have to marry her".
It was a welder on the shipyard who turned my life around. It certainly wasn't anything I learned at home. Him and his wife prayed and worked with me for two years. Even help me meet my future wife. His wife led my wife to the Lord and then the pressure was on. Pride held me back but the Holy Spirit had me cornered and I finally surrendered.
So, my childhood was far from typical and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
Fearless Phil |
Handmaiden
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Username: Handmaiden
Post Number: 176
Registered: 7-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 10:13 pm: | |
Phil,
i am sorry that your childhood was so difficult. Its hard to picture a liitle boy going through and experiencing all that you did growing up.
My mother's heart, just wants to scoop up that little fella and make it all better.
i know that your testimony for Jesus shines all the brighter for the darkness that you went through.
It is easy to praise God, when all is well...but when we praise Him in and through the hard times that is a really something, and the world notices and wants what you have.
God bless you and Jan,
Hope she continues to do well.
love
handmaiden |
Bb
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Username: Bb
Post Number: 580
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 4:56 am: | |
A summary of the strictness was that our lives revolved around living as ellen would have us live.
There were a few slip ups, we probably ate more than a tablespoon of sugar in one day. We did eat three meals a day, but mom was always reading ellens "inspired" books and she would talk about what we should be doing different. I never tasted meat,nor pepper, mustard, or vinegar.
We never strayed from doing non-Sabbath things on Saturday, we guarded the edges of the Sabbath, we did not read fiction, we did not play with non-adventist friends.
We went ingathering, supported the evangelistic meetings. We wore no jewelry, but I rebelled and wore make-up. Actually going to academy felt like more freedom to me. There was a mix of strict and liberal adventists, and you could get away from the strictness by your choice of friends.
I got good at pretending to be a good adventist girl for my parents, but rebelling by eating a hamburger or wearing jewelry, etc. for many years! My mother could give you a look that you could just imagine ellen white giving if you strayed from the "truth"!! |
Grace_alone
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Post Number: 1588
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 12:38 pm: | |
Barb, you have WAY too much life in you to live like that! You poor sheltered baby! Glad you found the freedom in Christ to live like a normal person.
My in-laws aren't that strict, but I was amazed by how badly they tried to break up and my hubby (then boyfriend) and me. I grew up in a Christian home, active all my life, never drank, smoked, took drugs or even swore. I never even went to parties as I was such a homebody. However to the in-laws, the fact that I was not SDA made me EVIL!!
Knowing what I know now, I will do my very best to equip my kids in finding a well grounded Christian mate from a gospel believing church.
 Leigh Anne |
Philharris
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Post Number: 1864
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 2:03 pm: | |
Leigh Anne,
You are right on. While I was an active, in your face, sinner none of my SDA family paid me the slightest attention. Only when my life was turned around did they ask me anything remotely spiritual. Then, when I shared my belief that Ellen was a false prophet, my dad's sister who was leading a very worldly life herself, became very angery with me. Drinking, partying, fornicating and having a tattoo was ok....but going to a Sunday church was unforgiveable.
Fearless Phil |
Bb
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Post Number: 583
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| | Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 4:36 pm: | |
Yes, I love the "normal" feeling! And I married an adventist the first time around. He was a drinking, partying sda, and by golly, at least he was an adventist!!! I had no one to guide me to make wise choices in my future husband, just be sure he was an adventist!! I am with you Leigh Anne, on encouraging our kids to find Godly mates! Someone who has the Holy Spirit living in them!!
Today, I drove my nine year old and some kids for a field trip to the University for a play. He goes to a Christian school. Well, apparently there is an sda in his class, cuz I had to follow a car with a license plate holder that stated.."The 7th day is Saturday". Oh brother. It feels kind of nice that she doesn't know my background, and I am just a "normal" Christian.
How about a license tag that says something about JESUS!!!! |
Lifeanew
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Post Number: 229
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 5:26 pm: | |
Our family only ate beef, chicken and lamb. Never pork or seafood. As a kid I would look longingly through the back yard fence at the neighbors Saturday afternoon BBQ's. They were cooking Hotdogs,hamburgers, with cold Van Camp Pork and Beans right from the can. For some reason I wanted to taste those beans. Our gracious Catholic neighbors always invited all the neighborhood kids, but my mom wouldn't let me go. The hot dogs and beans had pork and it was Sabbath. I feel I missed out on so much as a kid. From an early age I always felt something wasn't right in regard to all the do's and don'ts about food. As time went on I got as far away from all the do's and don'ts as I could. It took until three years ago to understand what the bible really says about eating meat. Praise Jesus! My husband is on the way home with a meat combo pizza and I can hardly wait. I hear him at the door....gotta go.
Jan |
Psalm107v2
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Post Number: 452
Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Friday, October 16, 2009 - 4:39 pm: | |
Great topic Asurprise and Adrian I laughed harder today at your fiction comment harder than I've laughed in a while
I remember my friend gave me ham to eat and I thought I was going to die--I mean I thought God was going to kill me in my sleep.
My family was very strict SDA-wise but with our Jamaican bacground it was hard to substitute some items. Instead of Ackee and fri-chik is not as good as Ackee and saltfish.
My parents inspected the ingredients in everything-if it could not be verified we couldn't eat it. We did not eat in restaurants, well ever because pork may have been there. The first meal I ate in a restaurant with my parents was probably a little after my 30th birthday
We were mostly vegetarian except for the occasional periods when we missed some of the food from back home. One day my dad must have missed some down home cooking because he took my sister out to a farm and bought a goat. My sister had to sit in the back seat and hold his horns.
Now picture this we are the only Black family in a small town, the only SDAs (didnt' socialize on Sabbath, no Easter celebration and a whole bunch of other oddities we endured) which often ostracized our neighbors. To top it all off my dad drags the goat out of the Buick Skylark into our house in front of all our neighbors. I was about 10 years old and tried to explain to my friends that my dad wanted fresh clean meat. I love curry goat but watching my dad take a machete to that goat was a little much
Enoch |
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