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Aletha25 (Aletha25)
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 1:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi everyone!

Has anyone heard whatever happened with Roger Morneau? I heard he used to be a satan worshipper in his early days & was regularly told that satan hated seventh day adventists the most.

I've read his books which have been a wonderful blessing, but I'm also thoroughly confused!
I understand that God has blessed him through the intercessory prayer ministry.

But was satan deceiving him whilst a satan worshipper, telling him that sdas are most feared, or is it truth? (Remember Acts 16:16-18?)

I'm praying & studying God's word, Asking the Holy Spirit to give me understanding.

Could someone comment please! But before you do, please pray & ask the Holy Spirit to put the words in our mouths, satan is very deceptive!

Hope the Holy Spirit speaks to me through you guys as well as The Holy Bible!

Take care, Grace & mercy from Jesus Christ!!

Steve (Steve)
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 6:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Aletha,

Roger Morneau was an SDA author. His specialty was dealing with Spiritism. He wrote some books on prayer as well.

I read one of his books quite a few years ago. Didn't make an impression on me.

I think he died in '98 or '99.

That's what happened to him.

Pushing up daisies.

Colleentinker (Colleentinker)
Posted on Friday, June 13, 2003 - 2:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aletha, I read a Roger Morneau book, or at least part of it--that told his story. (It may have been a book about him, not by him; I can't remember for sure.) It's true that he was into spiritism. It's also true, if the book was to be believed, that the spirits warned him against SDAism and, as you said, informed him that Satan hated them the most.

I remember that the book was really making the point that Roger Morneau's experience confirmed the validity of Adventism. Satan wouldn't tell a SPIRITUALIST that Adventists were the most dangerous church if they really were. Adventism, therefore, had to have the truth because Satan feared them the most.

At the time I remember thinking how bizarre things were that the church was validating its truthfulness by revelations from Satan. Satan can NEVER be believed. His nature is deception. And deception, by definition, is almost impossible to distinguish from truth if we do not KNOW for sure what truth is.

As for his intercessory prayer ministry, I really don't know anything about it firsthand. I do know this: God will glorify himself wherever people have faith in him and trust and honor him. God, being sovereign, even uses evil people to help accomplish his purposes, i.e. Nebuchadnezzar, Pharaoh, etc. He even uses deceptive organizations to accomplish his will in the big picture. After all, look how God has redeemed our pasts by turning our obsession with the law into an understanding of the new covenant that surpasses that of people who don't have such intimate knowledge of the law.

The bottom line is this: we can never put our trust in any person or their ministry. We must put our trust in Jesus Christ. When we do that, he draws us to himself, and the Holy Spirit reveals truth increasingly. God may led us to people who will help us to grow, and he will convict our hearts of truth when we hear it.

As for whether or not Roger Morneau's intercessory prayer ministry was truly Biblical or honest, only God knows. If it was of God (and again, let me stress that even if Morneau wasn't entirely motivated by God, God could still have honored the faith of those for whom he prayed), even that fact does not validate his spiritist revelations of Satan's distaste for and backhanded endorsement of Adventism.

We have to examine everything by the word of God, and if something doesn't jive with Scripture, we have to reject it.

Praise God for revealing himself to us and leading us into truth!

Aletha25 (Aletha25)
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 11:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Thank you Colleentinker!

You're absolutely right... everything must be examined by the Holy Word of God. If it doesn't uphold or go with the Holy Scriptures, then we must reject it!

I'll be studying the Bible to lead me into all truth!

The Joy & wonderful Grace of Jesus Christ be with us all!

Janice (Janice)
Posted on Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 7:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aletha, I was curious with the title of your thread and thought that I would let you know that they're several pages of links to go to on your search engine concerning this person. A lot of those links appeared to be German or Dutch, don't know for sure, just knew I couldn't read them.

Pheeki (Pheeki)
Posted on Monday, June 16, 2003 - 11:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have read his books and they scared the crap out of me. He was very into spiritualism even as an SDA, he claimed he could see demonic spirits and they even tried to kill him.

His books are facinating but he toots his own horn quite a bit in them.
Janice (Janice)
Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 1:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry I have been away from the forum for a while. I was checking out the new messages and I guess this post was the last one I made on June 15th, anyway, I just thought I would say hello to everyone and say that I have been to visit with my step-daughter in Florida during the fourth and the full-day trip of over 600 miles of driving wore us both out. I am now in another department at work too that is really wearing me out and it is time for bed by the time I eat something for supper and check my e-mail out. I also have been doing some canning and now my mother-in-law's corn is coming in, I froze several dozens ears this weekend.

I have also been doing more research and am trying to get back into working on my web site with all the new information I have been gleaning from various sources.

We had a wonderful morning worship at church taken from Titus--3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
8 [This is] a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.
9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and STRIVINGS ABOUT THE LAW for they are UNPROFITABLE AND VAIN.
10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject;
11 Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being CONDEMNED of himself.

The pastor also mentioned Acts 4:12--Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Guess I will end with that thought.

Hope to get back into the forum soon.

Colleentinker (Colleentinker)
Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 1:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have frequently been reminded of Titus 3:9 when I hear people get stuck arguing about the details of the law, theology, etc. Those can become distractions from Jesus, and they are, as Paul says, completely unprofitable! Arguing doesn't change anyone's mind.

Praising God for His Spirit,

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